Posted by: voodoo47
« on: 05. April 2018, 23:16:03 »so it begins.
Posted by: unn_atropos
« on: 05. April 2018, 23:10:13 »The sourcecode for the MAC version was just released here.
Posted by: Shaun
« on: 19. July 2016, 14:51:41 »Looked at those fixes and they look interesting but very specific to each game. Since I have a working workaround that only requires an extra minute or two, I don't think I'll risk screwing it up for right now as I think it's risky trying to apply that to this particular game, BUT that's useful info should I decide to tweak in the future. Thanks!
Posted by: Olfred
« on: 19. July 2016, 13:22:55 »Like I said, I'm not a Mac person so I don't really know.
But Myst and Riven are both games which use Quicktime and also were released on Mac.
Maybe you can apply their solution to System Shock.
But Myst and Riven are both games which use Quicktime and also were released on Mac.
Maybe you can apply their solution to System Shock.
Posted by: Shaun
« on: 19. July 2016, 11:29:54 »Interesting - that may very well be possible, but I'm not sure how to do it if it is.
Posted by: Olfred
« on: 19. July 2016, 11:28:34 »I'm not a Mac person. But wasn't there something like. You can put quicktime files inside the game folder and with some settings stuff you tell the application to run from there and don't take the system codecs?
I've read something like that about Riven once, IIRC.
I've read something like that about Riven once, IIRC.
Posted by: Shaun
« on: 19. July 2016, 07:13:35 »So no matter what I did, I couldn't get the movies to play correctly. (Maybe once in a blue moon, but 9 out of 10, no). If others have had this issue, I found a potential fix, even though the workaround isn't exactly elegant.
If you delete all Quicktime files from the Mac, then install Quicktime 4.1.2 (https://support.apple.com/kb/DL1134?locale=en_US&viewlocale=en_US), you may have better results. (I did a full installation).
One caveat though...when you start Sheepshaver, System Shock WON'T work right as far as movies playing the first time. But start System Shock anyways, click through to the menu, and quit the application. Then go to Special -> Restart on the Desktop. After the restart, launch the game, and it *should* work as it's supposed to including movies.
I have no idea why it only works right on the reboot, but I've reproduced this multiple times with success, and it always requires a restart before it works correctly.
It's possible another version of Quicktime might work better, but after playing for hours, this is the closest to a solution I found.
It seems to work perfectly other than that, though I haven't played extensively. The music speed is also a little wonky at first but seems to even out after the first few seconds.
If you delete all Quicktime files from the Mac, then install Quicktime 4.1.2 (https://support.apple.com/kb/DL1134?locale=en_US&viewlocale=en_US), you may have better results. (I did a full installation).
One caveat though...when you start Sheepshaver, System Shock WON'T work right as far as movies playing the first time. But start System Shock anyways, click through to the menu, and quit the application. Then go to Special -> Restart on the Desktop. After the restart, launch the game, and it *should* work as it's supposed to including movies.
I have no idea why it only works right on the reboot, but I've reproduced this multiple times with success, and it always requires a restart before it works correctly.
It's possible another version of Quicktime might work better, but after playing for hours, this is the closest to a solution I found.
It seems to work perfectly other than that, though I haven't played extensively. The music speed is also a little wonky at first but seems to even out after the first few seconds.
Posted by: Shaun
« on: 18. July 2016, 08:29:45 »The actual retail Mac Disc (CD).
Posted by: Kolya
« on: 18. July 2016, 06:26:13 »So that's a disc with system shock for mac, you ordered? Or a hard drive?
Posted by: Shaun
« on: 18. July 2016, 06:18:36 »I know this is a quite old thread, but I just wanted to say I just ordered a Mac disc off eBay to play with. I did get the version in this game running pretty well under SheepShaver, though for some reason, movies don't play the first time. But if I quit, then start it again, I get an error, have the option to restart the computer, and then it seems to work perfect. (But the Mac doesn't shut down completely when I'm done...oh well...just crashes to close it out...but the game seems to work at least.) =oP
Anyways, I'll be curious to take a look at the disc.
Anyways, I'll be curious to take a look at the disc.
Posted by: Olfred
« on: 30. October 2015, 22:47:50 »Maybe there was some kind of limitation that you can only create fully writen CDs/ISOs at that time?
I know of something similiar, a Playstation 2 only accepts DVDs which were full. Or something could go wrong if they are not fully written. So when you burned something for it you needed to fill the rest up with garbage.
I know of something similiar, a Playstation 2 only accepts DVDs which were full. Or something could go wrong if they are not fully written. So when you burned something for it you needed to fill the rest up with garbage.
Posted by: Kolya
« on: 30. October 2015, 21:56:27 »Shit, it's true.
Posted by: Kolya
« on: 30. October 2015, 21:38:14 »I've just found out that about 60% of the image data is... a Jungle Book audiobook!
Has Nightdive acquired the rights yet?
Posted by: Valet2
« on: 29. October 2015, 03:09:08 »I've just found out that about 60% of the image data is... a Jungle Book audiobook! Probably a hidden track left from another session while making the master disc of the game.
Just open the img file in sound forge as raw data, choose "unsigned", 8 bit, 22 kHz and listen somewhere in the middle!
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Appeared to be this game written as the first track, and then System Shock: http://macintoshgarden.org/games/creative-reader-collection
Just open the img file in sound forge as raw data, choose "unsigned", 8 bit, 22 kHz and listen somewhere in the middle!
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Appeared to be this game written as the first track, and then System Shock: http://macintoshgarden.org/games/creative-reader-collection
Posted by: Valet2
« on: 11. August 2014, 20:31:28 »Well, according to this: http://www.emaculation.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5346&view=previous
there is no way to bind the ctrl-click in SheepShaver to the right mouse button. It works with a middle button instead (how pity).
there is no way to bind the ctrl-click in SheepShaver to the right mouse button. It works with a middle button instead (how pity).
Posted by: Olfred
« on: 11. August 2014, 18:35:48 »Get a proper mouse?
Posted by: Valet2
« on: 11. August 2014, 17:48:14 »Okay, how to use the right mouse button? How to shoot dammit?
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Okay, here's the answer: http://www.emaculation.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=6342
(unstable though)
Also, in order to run the sheepshavergui you need to get a lot of dll-files, which are all bundled in GTK+ pack: http://www.gtk.org/download/index.php
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Okay, here's the answer: http://www.emaculation.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=6342
(unstable though)
Also, in order to run the sheepshavergui you need to get a lot of dll-files, which are all bundled in GTK+ pack: http://www.gtk.org/download/index.php
Posted by: capt.ahab
« on: 06. August 2013, 12:14:30 »new links for the bundled version with sheepshaver (rapidshare sucks really bad nowadays)
http://www.share-online.biz/dl/XAOFS3RM4AW5
http://www.share-online.biz/dl/NEBIS3RMQJO
http://www.share-online.biz/dl/GYZIS3RMLY4
Habe Fun
http://www.share-online.biz/dl/XAOFS3RM4AW5
http://www.share-online.biz/dl/NEBIS3RMQJO
http://www.share-online.biz/dl/GYZIS3RMLY4
Habe Fun
Posted by: the verchant of menace
« on: 26. October 2012, 15:18:19 »excellent!
it's ironic to actually hear someone say this will not work UNLESS you run it on ppc!
i say this because i also have a ppc mac, so it's good to know that there are some classics out there that i can run (if my pc goes down).
much appreciated!
it's ironic to actually hear someone say this will not work UNLESS you run it on ppc!
i say this because i also have a ppc mac, so it's good to know that there are some classics out there that i can run (if my pc goes down).
much appreciated!
Posted by: Kolya
« on: 11. June 2008, 12:34:05 »It's probably due to the emu eating a lot of CPU/MEM. Have you tried SSPortable? If it runs in DGVoodoo mode (or Mouse2KV mode) on your machine you will be considerably better off performance wise.
Posted by: pwroberts
« on: 11. June 2008, 11:17:50 »First, thank you for the emulator/game package - it was very easy to get it running. However, the timing/tempo of the in-game MIDI music is very unstable 
. Does anyone know how to fix this? System Shock's just not the same with the music turned off!
. Does anyone know how to fix this? System Shock's just not the same with the music turned off!Posted by: Kolya
« on: 19. May 2008, 11:13:56 »Put up the new version, see the first post. Thanks go to capt.ahab!
Posted by: capt.ahab
« on: 16. May 2008, 10:08:13 »oh and btw...
some technical notes: inside the rar archive there is a self extracting 7-zip archive (280 MB) which expands to 1.4 GB (i used a 1 GB disk image, so you have the space to do other stuff as well, like installing and playing pathways into darkness, marathon etc....). i used mac os 9 and it works quite well for me, with occasional crashes and freezes.
some technical notes: inside the rar archive there is a self extracting 7-zip archive (280 MB) which expands to 1.4 GB (i used a 1 GB disk image, so you have the space to do other stuff as well, like installing and playing pathways into darkness, marathon etc....). i used mac os 9 and it works quite well for me, with occasional crashes and freezes.
Posted by: Kolya
« on: 16. May 2008, 10:03:07 »This will take a while since I reached rapidshare's download limit after the first file. Thanks for the links though, sounds good. If this works, I'll replace the torrent in the first post.
Posted by: capt.ahab
« on: 16. May 2008, 09:47:15 »hello!
i've got something for you. after searching the web for several hours i found it! it's a working copy of system shock mac which i bundled with sheepshaver, so you can play this version on win32 systems. after unpacking you should be able to play right away (you need the gtk2 runtimes for the sheepshaver gui). let me hear if it works for you.
http://rapidshare.com/files/115267377/system.shock.mac.part1.rar
http://rapidshare.com/files/115273105/system.shock.mac.part2.rar
http://rapidshare.com/files/115277468/system.shock.mac.part3.rar
i've got something for you. after searching the web for several hours i found it! it's a working copy of system shock mac which i bundled with sheepshaver, so you can play this version on win32 systems. after unpacking you should be able to play right away (you need the gtk2 runtimes for the sheepshaver gui). let me hear if it works for you.
http://rapidshare.com/files/115267377/system.shock.mac.part1.rar
http://rapidshare.com/files/115273105/system.shock.mac.part2.rar
http://rapidshare.com/files/115277468/system.shock.mac.part3.rar
Posted by: Kolya
« on: 06. February 2008, 20:19:58 »I don't have a Mac so I never checked this image.
I got it from Shock Unlimited (old mod site) when they went under, it must have been up for years. I wonder why no one ever reported this.
You might start a thread on TTLG and ask around who has a Mac CD.
Or try contact SNAFU via PM on TTLG, see his post. Also the guy above him: BryanN. And Raph (post) who hosts freylia.net and had a SS1 Mac version up there for a long time.
I got it from Shock Unlimited (old mod site) when they went under, it must have been up for years. I wonder why no one ever reported this.
You might start a thread on TTLG and ask around who has a Mac CD.
Or try contact SNAFU via PM on TTLG, see his post. Also the guy above him: BryanN. And Raph (post) who hosts freylia.net and had a SS1 Mac version up there for a long time.
Posted by: firefreak
« on: 06. February 2008, 19:18:59 »Thanks for the effort, but I guess it's the same problem as before: Many files are missing - which is why the archive is smaller.No idea why.
I skimmed through the previous Mac thread on TTLG - where only one seems to have gotten SS1 to run -- but it's unclear if it was with that image...
Still, our image has three usable resource files, which I tried to take apart now -- they have a different format than the intel variants (and that's not just the byte order...)
Posted by: Kolya
« on: 06. February 2008, 18:27:56 »I extracted all files from the image via gemulator and put them up in a 7zip here. Quite tedious since gemulator doesn't seem to allow extracting multiple files. Also the extracted files weigh in at only a third of the image. No idea why.
Posted by: Gigaquad
« on: 06. February 2008, 12:46:22 »Unless your image really is corrupt, you can browse the image on a PC with Gemulator Explorer. Drag the files to a folder to extract them. All videos and sounds look like Quicktime files, dunno about graphics or level data.
Posted by: firefreak
« on: 06. February 2008, 10:43:52 »I don't want to run the executable, I just need the resource files for TSSHP; And endianess should not be relevant for opening and extracting from the image.
(Edit: Sorry - to answer your question: Yes, he has a PPC)
(Edit: Sorry - to answer your question: Yes, he has a PPC)
Posted by: The Brain
« on: 06. February 2008, 09:30:21 »Does you friend have PowerPC based computer? System Shock for Mac is designed for PPC based processors only, so it won't work on Intel based processors.
Posted by: firefreak
« on: 06. February 2008, 05:28:18 »Hey there - great to have this version available as well;
I got it after several hours/days of sharing, brought it to a friend (with MacOS X) to extract the .img file - only to be reported by the machine that the image is corrupt and several files (especially the resource files, after which I was after) were missing.
I know, several steps in the above list might have gone wrong, but I have a special request: can someone please extract the files from the image and put the package up? I only need the resource files (plus perhaps a directory listing, as the audio logs seem to be in dedicated audio files rather than packed as resources)...
I got it after several hours/days of sharing, brought it to a friend (with MacOS X) to extract the .img file - only to be reported by the machine that the image is corrupt and several files (especially the resource files, after which I was after) were missing.
I know, several steps in the above list might have gone wrong, but I have a special request: can someone please extract the files from the image and put the package up? I only need the resource files (plus perhaps a directory listing, as the audio logs seem to be in dedicated audio files rather than packed as resources)...
Posted by: Kolya
« on: 24. February 2005, 21:42:42 »This is System Shock for Mac, playable in Windows via SheepShaver. As discussed on TTLG.
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