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Posted by: fox
« on: 31. March 2024, 10:11:47 »

Japan on 16mm Film | Shot on Bolex
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AUQoI3DSrgQ

Cinematic Reality: Japan | Photography Journey from Tokyo to Osaka
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0R_LWN_Wic8

Collateral & the Death of Neon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y51VUsotZe4

Reminds me of the debate around Deus Ex - Human Revolution looking too golden brownish, with people showing photographs of real world city lighting and comparisons of screenshots with different kinds of color filters. And indeed, I was so much happier with the blue'ish look of the original and Mankind Divided.

I'm currently watching and very much enjoying "Tokyo Vice" in which Michael Mann is also envolved.
Posted by: fox
« on: 29. August 2023, 15:20:52 »

Yes and with it, allegedly, the main game will also receive a substantial overhaul in the form of patch 2.0. I'm interested to see how much they have managed to fix since my one and only playthrough, right after release.

That first run went surprisingly smooth and bugfree but even if I factor out all the disastrous reports from others, broken promises and squashed expectations surrounding it, the experience was a mild disappointment. I had fun with it but the main story did not really impress and the side stuff started to feel samey after a while, not least due to bad balancing and the too superficial open world elements.

I didn't feel the urge to start another run until now but that combination of patch 2.0 with some really fresh content actually does make me look forward to a second one. Since I believe the expansion also ups the HW-requirements, this might still be a long way off for me until I have built a new PC. For now, my spare time goes to Baldur's Gate 3, which is fine.
Posted by: icemann
« on: 29. August 2023, 12:42:13 »

Expansion due out shortly. Looking forward to it.
Posted by: icemann
« on: 30. July 2023, 10:24:42 »

Originally by fox:

Neuromancer: The Origin of Cyberpunk | A Horrifying Dystopia
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HGW_7HTXuQo
Posted by: fox
« on: 30. April 2022, 11:08:23 »

Posted by: icemann
« on: 12. January 2022, 02:25:55 »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=izWxL2mhPvQ

Love this. There has been some good Cyberpunk 2077 videos done.
Posted by: fox
« on: 09. January 2022, 18:12:26 »

Old but good. I feel like it should now be extended and updated with a few more paragraphs that include stuff like the pandemic and recession, the renewed cold war rethoric, the Trump era, including the Capitol attack and probably a few other things.

Kotaku: "How Deus Ex Predicted The Future"
Posted by: fox
« on: 14. November 2021, 18:53:02 »

Cyberpunk Documentary PART 3 | The Matrix, System Shock, Snow Crash, Hackers, VR & Simulation Theory
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KczJNtexinY
Posted by: icemann
« on: 23. October 2021, 05:20:41 »

That is some damn fine art.
Posted by: Kolya
« on: 22. October 2021, 22:37:54 »

Anomaly III by Seppuku_Doge. By his own account he did some of the art for Cloudpunk
Posted by: Ivan The Insect
« on: 20. October 2021, 12:09:00 »

Posting any song by Juno Reactor in a cyberpunk thread is basically cheating since the band is pretty much in its core cyber and punk  :thumb:

However... This album is often overlooked even by JR's fans which is both puzzling and outrageous to me! This is by far the most traditional cyberpunk album they have released so far.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DTDt01_mb3g
Posted by: Kolya
« on: 13. October 2021, 18:29:03 »

Right, I missed that somehow.  :paranoid:
Posted by: fox
« on: 13. October 2021, 18:07:07 »

It's called Episode 1 so maybe it will make sense in a greater context.
Posted by: Kolya
« on: 12. October 2021, 21:19:54 »

That was great. I love me some relatable characters and oodles of details in my cybersalad.
But I didn't get the ending at all?
Posted by: fox
« on: 06. October 2021, 19:00:28 »

Posted by: Kolya
« on: 13. February 2021, 21:30:35 »

That was nice in a very classic cyberpunk way. The music is only so so, but the video is really great.
Posted by: fox
« on: 13. February 2021, 21:22:55 »

Code Elektro - Shinobi (Official music video)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QLcAT4_fR9Q
Posted by: icemann
« on: 27. December 2020, 03:00:34 »

Posted by: fox
« on: 26. December 2020, 17:31:24 »

Posted by: fox
« on: 24. November 2020, 20:04:15 »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tU3s5cGq1e4

This is in German only but recommended if you can understand it. It's not about the game but about the genre:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4qYjqm87ZQ
Posted by: Kolya
« on: 09. August 2020, 18:08:03 »

I assume you have a PC available. In that case I would suggest to use something like https://miro.com
Posted by: icemann
« on: 09. August 2020, 15:16:02 »

That's actually quite smart. I should use that in my classes since we've been online only (via Zoom) ever since COVID hit.
Posted by: Kolya
« on: 09. August 2020, 15:13:48 »

Cyberpunk: a combination of low-life and high tech

Posted by: icemann
« on: 09. August 2020, 04:16:33 »

That second one is very Night Trap-ish.
Posted by: fox
« on: 08. August 2020, 11:05:32 »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LVnJsLiK4hc
Also check out the videos for Carpenter Brut's tracks. They're not Cyberpunk but deliciously 80ies-grindhousy and the music itself is pretty damned good too!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Wp95itbiAA

Posted by: icemann
« on: 08. August 2020, 04:21:48 »

Nice. Very Ghost in the Shell-ish.
Posted by: Kolya
« on: 07. August 2020, 23:31:48 »

That's all? I...I need more!
Posted by: fox
« on: 07. August 2020, 20:01:57 »

Posted by: Cherno
« on: 10. February 2020, 20:28:38 »

I originally posted this over on the Collective Cyberpunk Community a few years ago. It was written by myself. You can find the article on NeonDystopia with some images from the movie Escape from New York here: https://www.neondystopia.com/cyberpunk-books-fiction/you-flew-the-gullfire-over-leningrad/

"You flew the Gullfire over Leningrad..."

Observations about a recurring motif in Cyberpunk media

Hello fellow Hackers, Punks, and My Little Pony fans,

I'd like to share my thoughts on this line of dialogue, delivered by Police Commissioner Bob Hauk in 1981's Escape from New York. It is just a blink-and-you'll-miss-it line and the event is not given any more exposition or explaination. However, for William Gibson, this particular line was to have a profound impact.

"I was intrigued by the exchange in one of the opening scenes where the Warden says to Snake 'You flew the Gullfire over Leningrad, didn't you?' It turns out to be just a throwaway line, but for a moment it worked like the best SF where a casual reference can imply a lot." - William Gibson

But first, let's stay in the dystopian future of Escape. The novelization of the movie describes how Snake lost his eye in World War III's Battle of Leningrad, and while I haven't read the novel, I speculate that Snake was a member of some Black Ops outfit whose mission it was to fly over Leningrad to bomb an installation or maybe drop paratroops. The "Gullfire" was probably either a stealth plane or a glider, which would help to explain why Snake was chosen for the Escape mission; Since he would be a crack glider pilot, he could take the glider to the top of the World Trade Center, not an easy task as evidenced by the fact that in the movie, he just barely manages to land the vehicle.

Either way, Gibson finished writing Neuromancer a few years later and what do we find in this "Cyberpunk Bible"? The character of Armitage alias Colonel Willis Corto, the former member of a Special Forces team who were to fly ultralight aircraft deep into Russian territory during World War III to disable important enemy computer systems. However, they were shot down but a surviving Cort managed to escape over the heavily fortified Finnish border, which could imply a mission theatre far in the northwestern part of Russia, next to Finland, and the general region where Leningrad (St. Petersburg)  is located.

Sound familiar? Wait, there's more...

In 1989's Pen & Paper roleplaying game Shadowrun, the timeline that leads to the game universe's future 2053 includes a decade-long conflict in middle and eastern Europe called the "Euro-Wars", involving most nations of that region including Russia, Germany and Poland. The conflict was ended rather apruptly when one night Swedish airspace monitors picked up what they believed were British "Nightwraith" bombers flying across the conflict zone and successfully destroying vital command centers of the warring factions, while at the same time unknown assassins killed key generals from both sides, forcing the belligerents to sign an armistice.

I found no sources that directly state if these occurences in literature were directly influenced by the Gulfire line from Escape, but I would think that it's not a coincidence, especially since it's all in the Cyberpunk subgenre (if you want to call Shadowrun Cyberpunk, that is!).

Anyone else got something like that, where story elements, plots, or just throwaway lines like the one discussed here, had obvious influences on later works?

One more that comes to mind are the Tychon Colony Massdrivers from Cyberpunk's backstory, which the Eurospace agency installed in space to enforce their will on earth by letting asteroids fall on or near U.S. cities (Colorado Springs and Washington, D.C. in this case). This concept was found earlier in Walter Jon Williams' 1986s Hardwired, where the earth's wealthy elites live in luxurious space stations that can drop rocks onto the planet's surface without any viable defence possible. Of course, Williams was one of the playtesters of the original Cyberpunk RPG and R. Talsorian Games also later published a sourcebook for Cyberpunk detailing the world of Hardwired.
Posted by: fox
« on: 04. January 2020, 17:34:25 »

Yes, Gibson wrote the Neuromancer-trilogy.

I do think there's often some tonal difference but I never really analyzed it. The guy who made the clip does list a couple of interesting points, I think. Overall the whole genre is anything but sharply defined and it never was. Lots of cross-pollination going on, which was surely helped by real-world globalization, via real-world internet.

Shadowrun is certainly not pure yberpunk but a crossover of two very different genres. I understand the appeal but personally prefer my future noir without magic. Part of its appeal stems from it being so grounded in reality. The creator of the following clip disagrees with me though.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_JoF8E9ht4Y
Posted by: icemann
« on: 04. January 2020, 16:06:43 »

Of Neuromancer if I remember right.
Posted by: ZylonBane
« on: 04. January 2020, 16:05:18 »

William Gibson would like a word with you.
Posted by: icemann
« on: 04. January 2020, 13:42:24 »

Is there really a difference between the 2? I find Japanese and Western cyberpunk to be super similar. Each is HEAVILY influenced by Bladerunner, Akira and Ghost in the Shell.

It only gets very different if you put Shadowrun into the mix, as that has fantasy creatures and races (eg dragons, elves, orcs etc) + magic, combined together with cyberpunk.
Posted by: fox
« on: 04. January 2020, 11:56:23 »

Random articles and clips on this topic keep coming up but there doesn't seem to be a thread to collect them. Instead of posting those in the "it's interesting to me"-thread, I figure it makes sense to create one for those that don't warrant their own thread or better belong in an already existing one.

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"Why Japanese Cyberpunk is Different"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z7y_wjc0Jf0

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