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Posted by: sarge945
« on: 12. April 2024, 02:20:32 »

The good news is that the latest AI fad is still based on the same primitive and contextless data analysis of chatgpt (or hell, even tensorflow), which means it makes all the same basic mistakes because it doesn't understand context or reasoning, it can only spit out data somewhat relevant to the input source.

Which means it also has all the same problems and is due to fail and then fall into obscurity for the same reasons.

When someone develops a truly intelligent software that can analyze data and come to logical conclusions, that's when we need to worry. Although one could argue that any basic data -processing application already does that. Maybe this is purely a battle of definitions, nothing more.

Either way, we have nothing to worry about from this. It'll disappear the same way the crypto grift disappeared. Much of it is even being run by the same people and handled in the same shady ways.
Posted by: Join2
« on: 11. April 2024, 20:31:16 »

Because there will be many that deny the psychopathy of the rest. Nobody denies it in Jong un's case, except his own people. That's the only one.  I don't want to single anyone out too much otherwise. In ten years time once complete domination/control of society is attained, given that is the path we are headed down and have for a long time, it could come back to bite you. Cowardly, sure. I would fight  1v1, no real fear there. But fighting their robot drone army, or biological drone army (police/military)...futile and senseless.
Posted by: Nameless Voice
« on: 11. April 2024, 18:47:26 »

Quote by Join2:
It's not a matter of if dystopia happens, but when. That's just being realistic, especially when we're all led by socio/psychopaths, with North Korea being the most obvious example.

I find it really weird, given what's happening in the world at the moment, that you pick North Korea's ... lunatic as the obvious example of a psychopath running the world.  He has almost no influence outside of his own tiny country, unlike the truly dangerous psychopaths in the so-called civilised West.
Posted by: voodoo47
« on: 11. April 2024, 16:58:06 »

Quote by Join2:
People always used to smile way back
yes, and then sneakily reported you to kgb (or whatever equivalent of it your country had before '89) because you had a nicer vase on your tv in the living room, or a brother who sent you ham sometimes. thanks but no thanks, I'm fine with not-smiles.
Posted by: fox
« on: 11. April 2024, 16:57:32 »

But you can enjoy the beautiful sounds of "political dissidents" thrown into boiling water every once in a while.
Posted by: Join2
« on: 11. April 2024, 16:46:20 »

Wow, demoralize the people some more. Can't even enjoy some romantic blues or slow jazz. Can't even rinse some drum & bass or metal at the gym. Fucking clown world.
Posted by: fox
« on: 11. April 2024, 16:43:45 »

Well, there are too many terribly violent nut cases running countries, most likely at any given time throughout human history. Just this morning I read that a strong contender for the current pole position emerged and asserted dominance (once again):

https://www.npr.org/2024/04/09/1243632570/chechnya-music-ban-bpm

Posted by: Join2
« on: 11. April 2024, 16:36:47 »

It's not a matter of if dystopia happens, but when. That's just being realistic, especially when we're all led by socio/psychopaths, with North Korea being the most obvious example. So I guess for now we can only enjoy and appreciate what little remnants of normality & good healthy society remain.

Everyone looks so miserable these days. People always used to smile way back, now they have bags under their eyes, look tired, eyes to the floor. Not at all surprising giving the conditions, but it is sad to see.
Posted by: fox
« on: 11. April 2024, 16:11:04 »

That's what makes it so troubling...
Posted by: voodoo47
« on: 11. April 2024, 16:05:22 »

tools are just tools, they only bring out whatever was already inside.
Posted by: fox
« on: 11. April 2024, 16:03:16 »

Quote by icemann:
The other side to it, is that AI (plus computer related short cuts) is making us a species more dumber. If you take the general intelligence level of say 30 years ago and compare it today, be a lot higher back then.

Most people can't even be bothered to drive to the takeaway store anymore. They'd rather get it delivered via Ubereats. Sad days.

I think so, too. I'm not even excluding myself there. I'm not at a Ubereats-level of lazyness yet though.
Posted by: Nameless Voice
« on: 11. April 2024, 15:12:55 »

What does driving to a takeaway have to do with being intelligent?

Sounds like a lot of effort, frustration, and pollution for little benefit.
Posted by: icemann
« on: 11. April 2024, 14:00:09 »

The other side to it, is that AI (plus computer related short cuts) is making us a species more dumber. If you take the general intelligence level of say 30 years ago and compare it today, be a lot higher back then.

Most people can't even be bothered to drive to the takeaway store anymore. They'd rather get it delivered via Ubereats. Sad days.
Posted by: Nameless Voice
« on: 11. April 2024, 11:34:11 »

I feel that the most disturbing thing about AI is that the people working on it seem to be some of the very worst of humanity.

The people who love stealing art, the lead researcher who thinks genocides are great, the corporations doing everything for short-term profit without caring about the implications.  With those people teaching the AI, how could it ever become anything other than evil?
Posted by: voodoo47
« on: 10. April 2024, 23:48:17 »

done. decades ago.
Posted by: Join2
« on: 10. April 2024, 22:36:24 »

If SETI also serves as a lens through which we can examine our own technological trajectory and societal challenges, the urgency of establishing comprehensive global AI regulations cannot be overstated. It behoves us to engage with these issues proactively, to develop and enforce prudent regulatory measures, and to strive for a balance between harnessing the benefits of AI and safeguarding against the existential risks it may pose. As we stand on the precipice of a new era in technological evolution, the actions we take now will determine the trajectory of our civilization for decades to come. The implied longevity timescales for the scenarios described here (approximately 100–200 years), underscores the necessity for our own technical civilization to intensify efforts to control and regulate AI. The continued presence of consciousness in the universe may depend on the success of strict global regulatory measures.

Our leaders are mostly evil, greedy, self-serving snakes. Or old out of touch zombies. Abandon all hope.
Posted by: voodoo47
« on: 10. April 2024, 21:11:45 »

lets find out!

as long as the lasers are purple, I'm good.
Posted by: fox
« on: 10. April 2024, 19:57:22 »

"Is artificial intelligence the great filter that makes advanced technical civilisations rare in the universe?"
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0094576524001772?dgcid=rss_sd_all#sec6
Posted by: Nameless Voice
« on: 07. March 2024, 14:29:34 »

Well, the UK is very similar to the USA in terms of political parties, with there being basically no difference between the Conservatives and Labour under Starmer - they both have 95% the same policies, but just with different messaging.

The article was a bit dense so I only skimmed it, but it looks like they're mostly taking about taxation and government spending there, not about wages/salaries.

In other words, they're talking about austerity again.  The economy is declining, so they want to slash spending on public services.  That also tends to align with their economy philosophy, which is basically that everything should be privately run for profit.  Public services run for the common good rather than pure profit are anathema to their world view.

Austerity was really bad for most people in Europe the last time it happened - after the financial crisis caused by the banking crash.  They cut lots of public services in order to use the funds to pay back the banks and bankers who caused the crash.

(Oh, except in Iceland, who just let the banks fail and only guaranteed their own peoples' savings, which lead to them recovering from the crash much faster.)


As for why the BBC can publish this - most news sources need to post a few critical articles to keep themselves appearing "balanced", so long as it's not about anything too important.  Also, while it's not something I generally read myself, I've seen some business-related articles (in various places) which are more honest about financial issues than a lot of other media, because it's important for business people / investors to know these things.
Posted by: Join2
« on: 07. March 2024, 12:38:06 »

https://www.bbc.com/news/business-68498937

Warning of almost 20 years of pay stagnation

A separate think tank said there was "a conspiracy of silence" between the main parties over tax and spending choices.

It's more than 20 years in reality. Between tax increases, bare minimum wage increases, overall inflation & real estate insanity, purchasing power has been declining since the 70s. Even though wages have gone up at an extremely slow rate over those fifty years, what you can actually do with it is very little but survive in a lot of cases. I suppose I should be "grateful" I make above average pay, the significant portion of the population beneath me are in straight up indentured slavery. Food, rent, that's it. Those lucky to live with parents escape the greedy short-sighted self-serving landlords at least.

Surprised the BBC are allowed to publish this since they're state-owned. They used to have an allegedly credible rep of free press journalism regardless. @Nameless Voice your thoughts since you're close to home? Maybe just throwing the public a bone. Most people are aware pay is garbage these days anyway.
Posted by: Join2
« on: 07. March 2024, 11:53:35 »

To be fair to world leaders (must we?), many immediately below them and beside them would gladly stab them in the back literally or more commonly figuratively, for an opportunity to take their place or nation. Look at JFK. Russia's Navalny. Or anyone that was opposition and thrown from a 20 story window. Look at "give up your nukes and we'll protect or not invade you" treaties (Iraq, Ukraine). Power-crazed people in politics. It's a cutthroat world out there, so with that in mind you cant display any weakness in a lot of situations, which many confuse kindness and fairness with. I am also thoroughly convinced most are absolute puppets/figureheads on their knees to a deep state controlling most of the western world. Go against them (such as by taking care of the people, which is a matter of $ and a conflict of interest) and you'll be dealt with by a window-throwing equivalent, maybe get strangled in your prison cell, or more simply just media hellstorm fabricated character assassination or made up crimes. Go with them, you'll be rewarded with riches, a seat in this nefarious chamber, and maybe even a trip to Epstein Island 2.0 and god knows what other degenerate sick and twisted playgrounds from hell hidden in bunkers they may have.

I have no proof and don't think this is matter of fact, of course. I am merely a lunatic tinfoil hat person easily influenced by media like video games, movies, comedians, TV shows, literacy, world history, simply keeping perception stat high...
Posted by: Nameless Voice
« on: 07. March 2024, 10:46:55 »

Words that no world leader lives by!
Posted by: icemann
« on: 07. March 2024, 02:57:14 »

Treat others as you yourself would like to be treated. Words I live by.
Posted by: Xkilljoy98
« on: 06. March 2024, 17:30:25 »

There is a middle ground between helping just yourself or just others

Helping both yourself and others, since both are important
Posted by: voodoo47
« on: 06. March 2024, 10:09:34 »

every man for himself and do whatever you can do with your own two hands are not the same thing.
Posted by: Join2
« on: 06. March 2024, 06:57:17 »

Yes, but no. Every man for himself (and his people) is what lead to this sorry state in the first place, and is most definitely very noticeable these days among even the common populace. But I get what you're saying. As we're the powerless ones, that is literally all we can do...or so we tell ourselves.
Posted by: icemann
« on: 06. March 2024, 06:26:45 »

The important thing is to protect your family, friends and yourself. The rest are the random variables that you can't control. Pandemic lockdown days taught me that.
Posted by: Xkilljoy98
« on: 06. March 2024, 06:09:05 »

I don't plan on staying here as I know how these arguments can go but I do agree that a lot of things suck and it is getting harder and harder for many just to get by. Especially in certain parts of the world.

Environmental Issues, Politicians not fixing anything, Fascism on the rise, bigotry, prices through the roof, basic needs (food, water, healthcare, etc) getting harder for people to get, the wage gap increasing, etc

Just wish I could do something and wasn't powerless.

Not to say it was perfect before cause it wasn't, but it feels like it's worse recently given all that is going on. IDK, I can't really speak fully for what I wasn't around for.

I hope it gets fixed but I guess we'll see. I just wish I lived in a different world.
I like to think that someday things will be fixed and we'll evolve past our current flawed state, but who knows

Tho speaking of doom and gloom, I do recommend this video:
https://youtu.be/3-mjTQ0VBwI?si=_H6NvVUg4ci35KvQ
It is depressing, but good
Posted by: voodoo47
« on: 04. March 2024, 22:11:28 »

well yes, that is how people are.

so this isn't a problem that can be solved, all you can do is look at the past, and try to do whatever produces the least amount of people starved to death. and democracy and open markets, as much as they suck, seem to be the least awful solution.

getting things into perspective also helps - so yes, current state of affairs is not amazing, taxes aren't great, rent is up, food is more expensive, and there are people riding all the misery and getting rich (this actually always happens, no matter where or when). that said, when compared to what we had here thirty something years ago, I can;

- get whatever education I want
- get a job I want, and quit it if I want the moment I want
- marry whoever I want, and not marry who I don't want
- move to a different city whenever I want
- pay for better treatment if I want and can afford it
- buy whatever thing or service I want, and can afford
- leave the country without being shot at
- express my dissatisfaction without winning a trip to the uranium mines
- read whatever I want without the cops banging on my door
- toilet paper is always in stock
- am not forced to attend idiotic parades waving stupid flags where I get irradiated because the same morons who scheduled the parade also mismanaged a nuclear reactor and blew it up

yeah, I think I'll take what I have right now without batting an eye.
Posted by: Nameless Voice
« on: 04. March 2024, 20:39:07 »

Not really, it's never truly been tried.  There were some brief notions of it during the Russian revolution, but the whole thing quickly got taken over by corruption and replaced with... something else.  Military despotism, mostly.  Or whatever on earth Stalin was.

But of course, that's always been the problem.  Any great idea for how to improve society never survives meeting actual humans.
We destroy everything.
Posted by: voodoo47
« on: 04. March 2024, 20:07:45 »

lets maybe not do the planned economy/give power to the workers thing. we've already tried that, and it was.. not great.

unless you really like steamed rice with dill gravy and bone scrapings for your sunday lunch. ahh, childhood memories.
Posted by: fox
« on: 04. March 2024, 18:22:32 »

I really do wonder what the world would look like without the internet.

"You take the blue pill... the story ends, you wake up in your bed and believe whatever you want to believe. You take the red pill... you stay in Wonderland, and I show you how deep the rabbit hole goes." 

Or if you prefer it more traditional: would you eat from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil?

Do you really want to be woke, motherfucker?

I feel like the way the internet and globalization makes us (semi-)aware of way too many issues all at the same time and (seemingly) with barely a way to change them in a meaningful way. It's like constantly overdosing on something that could be a powerful medicine when used in moderation and with a strong ability to focus. It's not like that for everyone but for very many of us who grew up with it in their daily lifes, it's often addictive in a self-destructive way, too. And I certainly do believe that the woke craze can be seen as bad reaction to that overexposure to the world and human flaws, mostly by a generation that has never experienced anything different, which may also explain why they can't understand and accept anything outside of their own rightous thinking bubble.

I wouldn't want any of those pills, pure ignorance is terrible and losing all illusions all at once would be horrible too, at least if it doesn't come with a veritable saviour figure on your side that can provide a fighting chance for positive change. Which is key. Knowledge and awareness alone are nothing but a burden. Probably what makes "woke" people push too hard, too.
Posted by: Nameless Voice
« on: 04. March 2024, 16:37:53 »

Quote by Join2:
What superior alternative is there though? It would surely only be a modified version of capitalism with extensive anti-exploitation/corruption built in by design, no?

Not necessarily.  Capitalism means "rich men own and control the means of production."
Basically, everything is run by big companies controlled by rich men (and sometimes women).

We could have a society where production is instead controlled equally by the workers, who share the proceeds equally (a cooperative), or one where production is publicly controlled for the common good (a planned economy).

Both are open to corruption, of course!  Especially the government-controlled one if there's not enough protections against corruption.



As for people not wanting to work jobs if they didn't have to - I'd argue some people would still want to, and that at least half of the jobs in our current society are completely pointless anyway, and could be done away with.
It'd obviously need to be balanced so that essential jobs - especially food production and healthcare - are still being done.  But there are people who actually enjoy being doctors, nurses, farmers, craftspeople, artists, programmers, etc. - and would still choose to do those things even if they didn't need to in order to survive.
Posted by: voodoo47
« on: 04. March 2024, 14:23:07 »

the way I see it, things are going to be garbage no matter what you do. it's just how people are.

that said, I much prefer a system where people are lining up for iphones, and some can't afford one, opposed to a system where people are lining up for bread, and some can't afford one.

probably because I remember both.
Posted by: Join2
« on: 04. March 2024, 12:56:35 »

What superior alternative is there though? It would surely only be a modified version of capitalism with extensive anti-exploitation/corruption built in by design, no?

Quote by Nameless Voice:
e.g. I'd say making mods that people enjoy is more beneficial to society than working in an office job no one cares about, yet you'll starve to death if you decided to make mods instead of doing a job.

Hits too close to home. If I could do it, I absolutely would. Mods for days. All the classics.

Quote by Nameless Voice:
I also generally disagree on the "meritocracy" stuff, because I don't think anyone should not be allowed to live just because they don't want to or can't work like an idiot.  We have enough resources for everyone to live comfortably. Sure, you could say people who work hard should get more luxuries, but there's no reason not to let everyone have enough to survive.

I agree, but then nobody would do the shit jobs (which is a good 50% of them). They would overwhelmingly just take the "just surviving" option instead. Unless those jobs paid very well...which they probably should. Definitely more than whatever shit rate min wage is at now anyway.

Personally I want to see less slavish work weeks before anything. 4 day work week is a healthy balance. Still a lot of work getting done for society at probably the same level of productivity, and a better standard of living for all otherwise. I'd be way more enthusiastic about work life if it weren't a thief of all my time. Fucking bullshit.

I miss my old 4 days 10 hour shifts job. Three days of freedom. Four on a public holiday. It was mentally and physically freeing. Should be 4x8 for all though.
Posted by: Nameless Voice
« on: 04. March 2024, 12:48:08 »

Every system is broken by corruption, yes.

But by its entire definition, capitalism is a two-class system, with those who work and those who own things and get rich off the work of others.

What gets investment (time, money, people) is what those capitalists want to invest in - and it's usually something that makes them more profit or brings them some benefit.  I'd rather investment was selected by people trying to benefit humanity instead.

Also, I think you're specifically talking about free-market capitalism, which is the main system that has been used in the West.  That, by its definition, wants to have as little regulation (e.g. "corruption failsafes") as possible.

The biggest argument for free-market capitalism has always been "that it drives innovation", e.g. if people are desperate and need money, they will innovate.  But that's been repeatedly proven to be false, because most of the real innovation (new technologies, medicines, etc.) come from public bodies, public research, and/or public funding (and the results are then often made private so that someone can profit, instead of being used to help humanity.)



I also generally disagree on the "meritocracy" stuff, because I don't think anyone should not be allowed to live just because they don't want to or can't work like an idiot.  We have enough resources for everyone to live comfortably. Sure, you could say people who work hard should get more luxuries, but there's no reason not to let everyone have enough to survive.

We as a society have a crazy over-fixation on work anyway, and most of that work is, frankly, pointless.
Most people can't choose to do what they want, because most activities aren't profitable, and so they wouldn't be able to afford to live.

e.g. I'd say making mods that people enjoy is more beneficial to society than working in an office job no one cares about, yet you'll starve to death if you decided to make mods instead of doing a job.
Posted by: Join2
« on: 04. March 2024, 12:20:28 »

I've noticed a steadily increasing surge of awakening of late, both in real life and the internet. It's impossible to ignore for the middle and lower classes, especially where I live. Older people and the financially-set however are clueless and/or don't care.

Anyway, no, capitalism isn't a good system in theory.  Its entire concept is built around exploiting people.

Hence my mention of corruption failsafes. Though it would need many. As many as there are tax codes. :/

Other economic systems all had the same fate did they not? Corruption and exploitation was the final outcome, the same triangle power structure of feudalism. The same abuse of power. Every time.

Capitalism does have merit. It's the only system that is proven to result in very prosperous times for the majority (e.g numerous nations of the west post-WW2 until 1980 or so) while advancing society, even if that time was short lived.
It is also to a degree merit-based. The more you put in, the more you get out. Competence is rewarded. In reality that's not often the case, but the foundation is there: Smart, hardworking, accomplished, then pretty much no matter what you're going to be better off than a total retard with nothing going for him and doesn't work hard. That is how it should be, right? It's not fair to get the same as him if you work harder and are simply more efficient and ingenious.
Capitalism itself doesn't explicitly result in exploitation by design, but it doesn't defend against it either. So it is taken advantage of until it all compounds to the sorry state we have today. Your competition outsources jobs and materials to India for super cheap? This leaves you little choice to follow suit, or else collapse as a business. With laws and regulations in place, this could have been avoided. That's what it needs. An anti-corruption overhaul. This is what ANY system would need.

That's my understanding. I am not super well-versed in the subject. Educate me if I'm wrong.
Posted by: Nameless Voice
« on: 04. March 2024, 11:46:22 »

Quote by icemann:
We're all living in that cyberpunk future predicted back in the 80s I keep telling people, but no 'ones listening.

I keep saying the reason cyberpunk isn't really popular any more is because we're already living in it.
Posted by: Nameless Voice
« on: 04. March 2024, 11:45:15 »

We need that tax money to benefit society, but of course it's in the interest of the people in power (who are always rich) to gather the money from everyone poorer than them, because they don't actually want to give up any of their wealth for anyone else.
Oh, and also to squander most of the tax money on corruption, because that benefits them personally.

Anyway, no, capitalism isn't a good system in theory.  Its entire concept is built around exploiting people.
At its most basic, capitalism only works if everyone is paid less than the value that they contribute, so that someone can siphon off the excess and get rich.
The tiny capitalist class are the only ones with any power, because they control the money and therefore control what can be done / tried / invested in.

I saw a very interesting video about how a lot of our current economic systems were set up by the displaced nobility after the French Revolution (and end of monarchy), because they wanted to find a way to keep power in the new system, now based on their family's wealth rather than their family's titles.  That's why they worked so hard to change the system of values from "the value of a product is how much it costs in materials and labour" to "the value of a product is how much a rich man is willing to pay for it."
Posted by: icemann
« on: 04. March 2024, 11:23:19 »

We're all living in that cyberpunk future predicted back in the 80s I keep telling people, but no 'ones listening.
Posted by: Join2
« on: 04. March 2024, 10:19:41 »

While on the subject of taxes, that's another thing I missed in the OP. Taxation of the lower and middle class is the fucking worst. Gov. tax in western nations was first introduced at a reasonable rate, in theory and in practice, for the good of society...and then they kept raising it little by little over the years in small increments so that it never seems like a big jump at once. Now some people are paying around 40% in income tax, then yet more tax any time their money changes hands. And tax owning a house. Tax for even owning a TV! Originally, there was not all these extra bs income deductions like pension schemes which are a total scam. A significant portion of people die before they can even cash it in, after which a bunch of fuckery is involved for family potentially laying claim to it, designed as such so that a portion of it can be pocketed instead of just automatically being handed to next of kin as it should be. That's if anyone even comes forward to lay claim to it...

It's scams all the way down. Every system. The working poor are fucked hardest, followed by the middle class. Well, that's debatable really. The poor need a break from it the most as they have so little and suffer additional nuanced charges in society that no other class does, the middle class get robbed the most in raw numbers but it hurts less as they have a more solid foundation. Sure the rich pay the most in reality but it in most cases barely puts a dent in their wallet, is almost irrelevant. The Rich don't thrive on income, but assets. Don't even get me started on banking. That's another one actually that's changed since Pre-2000 world: savings account interest rates so pathetic you may as well not even bother, among other things.

Like Nameless Voice said, late stage capitalism. It didn't have to be this way though, capitalism is a good system in theory, or at least it could be with some corruption failsafes in place. The evil fucks that walk among us clamoring for power are always going to ensure things turn out this way though, just as they have throughout our species entire history. I guess this really does mean war is coming, as that's always the cycle right? Fuck. Why do we have to be so variable as a species? Evil/Good, Weak/Strong, Ugly/Handsome, Dumb/Smart...that is the crux of the issue but can't be helped. It's all natural.
Posted by: icemann
« on: 04. March 2024, 06:40:35 »

Quote by voodoo47:
yes. give a man a mask, and he will become his true self.

Words of wisdom and truth right there.
Posted by: Nameless Voice
« on: 03. March 2024, 13:04:57 »

We likely wouldn't even know about those real world concerns if the internet didn't make information accessible.

Though I'm sure there's an argument to be made that we'd be happier if we didn't know about the horrors of the world and just kept our heads down.
Posted by: Join2
« on: 03. March 2024, 04:10:17 »

Quote by Nameless Voice:
I have to say, the problems with the world have little to do with the internet.
The internet just lets us see them more clearly.

Generally I agree. I've been saying burn the internet etc but if I really think about it, the problems it causes wouldn't be too hard to tackle if more primary real world concerns weren't so broken. Still, I do think the issues is does cause should not be understated.
Posted by: Join2
« on: 03. March 2024, 04:01:18 »

Quote by Pacmikey:
Why are you so hostile all of a sudden? That came out of nowhere.

Your post came across as patronizing, or at least a little insulting. No big deal I don't think you meant it. And even if you did, still no big deal. I will happily patronize you the moment you start talking about braindead sellout unsubstantial modern games in a positive light. Especially those that are extra absurd. Don't take it personally, I just find it highly disappointing that more are not critical, and that it lowers standards for all. I'm passionate about the subject.
Posted by: voodoo47
« on: 03. March 2024, 00:23:07 »

yes. give a man a mask, and he will become his true self.
Posted by: Nameless Voice
« on: 02. March 2024, 23:38:34 »

I have to say, the problems with the world have little to do with the internet.
The internet just lets us see them more clearly.
Posted by: Pacmikey
« on: 02. March 2024, 22:33:29 »

Why are you so hostile all of a sudden? That came out of nowhere.
Posted by: Join2
« on: 02. March 2024, 21:28:10 »

I have gone no internet many times. This is a world problem, not internet. And again, it's mostly all stuff on my mind since I could interpret said world. any time I receive my paycheck and see that tax rate and gross pay, or slog up the hill at 6am in the freezing rain, commuting packed on a bus shoulder to shoulder like sardines with 100 indians, is when it's most on the mind! I moved to a new country (not india) and haven't really had the opportunity get a car in order yet, despite half "decent" pay relative to some other unlucky souls. Money is tight. I don't think I want to get a line of credit for more future shafting.

Stupid post. Sorry. I need a reality detox (video games). Recommend one to me, if you have taste.

Or hell, a vacation is good for the soul but I'm still thinking about it when I see the poors servicing me abroad and treating me like a king because I give them paper. I didn't even ask, that's just how the system made them. To be specific, my last vacation was in mexico at one of the typical tourist traps. The entire place is sustained on foreign money. It's gross. It circles back to the system in that the peso is garbage and everyone is super poor, weak infrastructure in place and such with no busting industry, not much fertile land for farming, so their best bet is to service foreigners. I'm not sure exactly the factors but it's a fucking mess.

I told you, I dont want hold my hands over my eyes and pretend all this shit is sane and sensible. The sheeple go through life and along with the system without question. You need the goddamn detox or to have your mental state checked. That's what gives it power. Sheepish compliance.

I bet you're the kind that refuses to discuss wages with coworkers 😆
Posted by: Pacmikey
« on: 02. March 2024, 20:32:16 »

Not a psychologist, but I think you should consider an internet detox. Constantly thinking about this kind of stuff is gonna keep you enraged forever. The internet now mostly exists only to get people angry.
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