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Posted by: voodoo47
« on: 22. November 2024, 09:41:18 »

yes, and remember, the first few posts explaining that were very neutral, things only started to get sour after he went all ballistic.


ok bub, now would be time to google projection (psychology), but (as you seem to be allergic to any kind of advice) maybe I'll just save you the effort - it's accusing the others of what you are.

YES you finally understand, we are the gatekeepers, and we have the monopoly on the current SS2 ecosystem and that is a very, VERY good thing - to ensure quality, there must be rules in place, without those, there is chaos, issues, and people not playing a modded game because it's hard to get mods loaded without breaking everything, then the game gets a bad reputation as being difficult, potential modders have less reason to learn the tools and create new mods, then there is less mods, and less people playing with mods and everything goes to hell.

so yeah, you either follow those (very few, and very basic) rules, or you can take your business elsewhere - also sorry, just because you say your mod is perfect that doesn't mean it actually is, you can't simply speak things into existence, that's not how reality works. and for the record, no, it is not, there are at least two issues that make it not qualify as a proper mod that would be hosted here, you don't want to accept that, fine, see if we care.

no, nobody is going to take down your ModDb download, technically it doesn't have any copyrighted files, but I'd wish ModDb would have some kind of system where senior modders could flag low quality content as such. so yeah, this is just your ego speaking (or whatever you've got going on there that makes you flip the table all the time).

and I think (after some maybe five posts of insults) it's time for your first warning - feel free to keep the hatred flowing, but tone down the language. this is a family friendly site.


//different version of some other mod would not be a big deal normally, but if it's the Community Patch, then yes, you either are fully compatible with the latest version or you're out, sorry but not sorry.
Posted by: Livo
« on: 22. November 2024, 09:03:38 »

People here are mostly providing feedback in the form of "You've structured your mod in a way, that'll make it very, very hard to update in the future, especially when newer versions of SCP & other game-play/overhaul mods come out. Are you absolutely sure you don't want to change the layout to address this, and thus make life a lot easier in the future?"

If people here didn't care about your game-play changes, and how your mod may not work anymore if someone runs it in 2025 with SCP v6 or another updated mod, they literally wouldn't bother telling you this in the first place.
Posted by: TheHEX
« on: 22. November 2024, 06:58:04 »

sarge945
i can probly get you a file ready sometime...

you dont seem to understand the idea behind the mod or what im accomplishing with it which is why you think changing the rifle requirements is inane. one of the things i wanted to do is to remove some of the "rpg" elements of choosing a specialty. you dont NEED to specialize anymore, but  you CAN still if you want to.. do more damage with a particular weapon class or fill in your whole psi powers for example. but i want to much of the tools and weapons and abilities available to the player, to use to defeat the difficult enemies. i never liked going through the game and throwing everything away because i couldnt use any of it. like, a soldier finding a rifle and not using it because he.. doesnt know how? now THATS inane to ME. and how slow the weapons fire? thats just unnatural. i just made the game more serious  believable and realistic in a way.

anyways it literally takes a couple hours to play through and you could get a good idea of the mod by playing half through the game. i think you would like it and understand it if you tried it. people on here are just haters. no one downloads it on moddb either you all just think im retarded and cant make anything worth while and dont even bother to try it and see how rewarding it is. it fixed everything about the game that i didnt like and i now consider it almost perfect.

but i didnt fix the rumbler xploit cuz im using the other guys mod with mine and its too difficult to do and no one helps so obviously i just did what i COULD do which is edit it to make it the way i think it should be.

i dont know how to do a script.

and to everyone else here? go eat shit and die please. i could write several paragraphs about how shit you are here in my interactions with you and others too and i am NOT the first or only person to say such things about you people, as im sure you already know.... but its not worth my time. ironic that many things you say about me can also be said about you.

you guys are just like nexus... trying to have some kind of weird monopoly of control over the ss2 modding scene so you can be the gatekeepers of all ss2 modding activity.. getting triggered when i say im using moddb instead. hilariously pathetic. and did you guys actually discuss getting my perfectly working mod deleted?? ! youve gotta be fucking kidding me. tell me more about narcissism? ive playtested it through like times. there are no unintended changes or bugs whatsoever. you have absolutely no right to get it deleted you fucking little worm. what would be your retarded bullshit excuse that youd give them? id love to hear it... "he made it for a different version of OUR mod but we made a new one so now we need to get all the old mods deleted. well its in dml so it probly still works with our mod anyways but i still need it deleted anyways... and he changed the enemies projectiles by adding new ones instead of changing the old ones! travesty!"
Posted by: voodoo47
« on: 21. November 2024, 17:17:14 »

yes, if someone has uploaded something you made, you can raise a complaint and if you provide enough evidence the rogue download will get removed. or if you know someone has uploaded something without the original author's permission and similar, but things do get a bit hazy in such a scenario.

so for example, almost sure that ModDb imbecile is keeping some very old builds of Christine's fan missions there, I probably could have them taken down if I really put my mind into it, but there is little point, whoever gets them from there will not be able to install them properly, inevitably ending up here and finding out much more up to date builds are available.
Posted by: sarge945
« on: 21. November 2024, 16:40:38 »

Wait, you can nuke files on moddb?

Quote by ZylonBane:
I looked this up on ModDb, and if the filename is to be believed, it's the exact same version posted here. So no fixes, no player testing. Just some kid crapping out some barely functional thing that depends on an obsolete version of SCP. God help anyone who tries actually using it.

If you want to make sure, I'd recommend getting the md5 hashes for both files.
Posted by: voodoo47
« on: 21. November 2024, 16:07:29 »

I did manage to get a few outdated/install breaking ModDb downloads down, but nuking all the gunk found there is pretty much impossible (good chunk uploaded by that one moron who thinks himself keeper of Dark files or somesuch, similar mindset btw, he knows he is doing a good job saving the world and everyone else is idiots).

looking forward to this becoming a part of some nice modpack, and then the users landing here asking what's going on.
Posted by: ZylonBane
« on: 21. November 2024, 15:08:22 »

I looked this up on ModDb, and if the filename is to be believed, it's the exact same version posted here. So no fixes, no player testing. Just some kid crapping out some barely functional thing that depends on an obsolete version of SCP. God help anyone who tries actually using it.
Posted by: voodoo47
« on: 21. November 2024, 08:45:40 »

I don't think it's a good mix with.. anything really.

either way, if he fixes the links, I am willing to put this up as a full mod, with that huge compatibility warning slapped on top of it. it's his choice to make, can't say I care very much where this ends up.
Posted by: ZylonBane
« on: 20. November 2024, 17:43:25 »

As it turns out, modding and narcissism aren't a great mix.
Posted by: voodoo47
« on: 20. November 2024, 10:18:18 »

yep, he learned nothing. attachment set to never expire - if an eternal monument to how to not do things is needed, sure, we can help.
Quote by hexi:
frivolous.. retarded and very rude.
self awareness, google it.
Posted by: sarge945
« on: 20. November 2024, 02:40:20 »

I would literally fix the DML for you (it's not hard) if I knew which changes were intended vs which changes were mindlessly copy-pasted.

This is the real problem. Your intentions are not clear. You have features in the DML which are clearly changed from SCP but which aren't documented (like the weapon requirements changes), so when I run into something that's different in the code, how am I supposed to know if it's an intended feature or something you accidentally changed in your frantic copy-pasting?

You need to be surgical with your DML. Every line should do exactly what it needs to, and nothing else. Even better if it has an accompanying comment. The reason people have made such a big fuss about it here despite "the mod working" has nothing to do with you personally or some vendetta against new members. It's because your mod is impossible to work with and is going to be a compatibility nightmare when newer versions of SCP come out.

Obviously it's your choice if you want to have mod compatibility or not, but making a mod that should be compatible with others, but isn't, is just plain disrespectful to your users. People want to use mods together, but more importantly, they don't want to run into random bugs and issues because they updated something like SCP, which is supposed to be a baseline version of SS2 that everything mods against.

To again use the Randomiser as an example. I don't particularly like Secmod personally. I've stated in other threads the issues I have with it. But that didn't stop me adding Secmod support, because people were literally asking for it. I didn't just shrug and go "ehh, this is incompatible, deal with it". It wasn't hard to do because the mod was built in a way such as to be compatible with other mods, with some minor changes. Not only can you avoid a lot of random bugs and issues by writing your DML properly, you also gain a series of advantages that allow you to provide a better experience for your users. I never even considered Secmod when I was building it, I didn't think anyone wanted a Secmod version. But because I wrote my DML properly from the start, it was a non-issue.

As for testing this mod: I'm personally not really interested. Most of the changes I've seen so far I disagree with (lowered AR requirements? Seriously?). If you want threatening Rumblers, the first step is to fix their AI (They are sufficiently scary with Scary Monsters installed), not to double their health or make them tankier - they already take MANY hits to take down. This mod, to me at least, seems like the wrong approach to the problems in SS2. Instead of fixing the game's fundamental design flaws, a layer of difficulty is added over the top as a bandaid, with all the same exploits still being largely intact. That's not really a criticism of you, many mods for many games make the same mistakes. Stalker and the Bethesda games come to mind - there are literally hundreds of difficulty mods for Skyrim, but very few of them address the core problems with the game that erode the difficulty and turn combat into a joke (potion chugging, free item/inventory interaction, bad enemy scaling, etc).

Here's a piece of advice: If you find a game too easy, and want to make it more challenging in a compelling way, don't just change some stats to make it harder, because if the game is exploitable at a fundamental level (which SS2 very much is), your difficulty tweaks aren't going to actually solve the difficulty problems. You are already experiencing this with the Rumbler, which still feels too easy despite being hugely buffed, because you haven't addressed the real problem, which is the backpedal exploit, which renders rumblers completely harmless.

Personally, I find that RSD+Scary Monsters (plus some other mods) already makes the game sufficiencly difficult simply by fixing most of the exploitable strategies, to the point where I can no longer complete the game on Impossible (and struggle a lot on Hard) despite being able to complete Vanilla on Impossible. I'm really not interested in playing the same Vanilla-like experience on Impossible but with some stats adjusted, because you can always beat it the same way you beat Impossible in Vanilla - get Standard weapons because the Assault Rifle is extremely OP (and even more so in this mod), get the good tech skills (Hacking, Maint, Modify to the minimum you need for weapon modification level 1) and ignore the bad ones, metagame around the exploitable enemy AI, and wrench everything, because most enemies from the smallest hybrid to the largest Rumbler can be defeated by simply backpedalling with the wrench.

P.S: If you want this mod to not be "inevitably deleted", try pinging voodoo to see if you can get the file expiry removed. That's standard practice here.

Quote by TheHEX:
voodoo47
i need to change the code for EVERY shot entry? where do i get each code
If you don't want to hunt down every entity in the editor, just attach a script to the archetype and change it there (or even better, do it via a metaproperty).
Posted by: hexi
« on: 20. November 2024, 01:11:09 »

this mod is over on moddb if someone wants it when this site will inevitably delete it. it works fine and there are 0 bugs or anything of that nature as this website would imply that it has, by disallowing me to move my mod into the mods section of the website. my life sucks and i have no time for anything and the soonest i would be able to humor the admin here with the frivolous changes ordered of me, would be probably years out. so the fact that i am unable to post and archive my work on here in the mods section for long term storage and dissemination, while not causing any bugs, is frankly retarded and very rude.
Posted by: voodoo47
« on: 13. August 2024, 09:41:17 »

the link id code? in the editor, as explained in your other topic, posted an example code snippet there.
Posted by: TheHEX
« on: 13. August 2024, 05:21:07 »

voodoo47
i need to change the code for EVERY shot entry? where do i get each code
Posted by: voodoo47
« on: 12. August 2024, 17:23:08 »

I still see the ++link code in the latest version, so no, we are probably not going to get serious until you get serious.
Posted by: TheHEX
« on: 12. August 2024, 17:08:44 »

is anyone planning on doing a playtest and report? no love
Posted by: icemann
« on: 09. August 2024, 13:18:40 »

You can take a horse to water, but you can't make it drink unfortunately.
Posted by: voodoo47
« on: 08. August 2024, 20:44:38 »

I'll offer some practical advice - every single dumb thing I did in the past when constructing mods, came back to bite me later in some shape of form, and I had to redo it right. do you really want to learn this the hard way?
Posted by: ZylonBane
« on: 08. August 2024, 19:37:27 »

"I poured hydrochloric acid down a clogged drain and it cleared it right up! What do you mean I shouldn't do that? It worked fine!"
Posted by: voodoo47
« on: 08. August 2024, 19:24:46 »

yes, that should be doable (assuming the rumbler attack messages can be intercepted and used to trigger the worm drop), but that is not going to be easy, prepare to get into scripting.
Quote by TheHEX:
i still dont see the issue
yes, that's the problem right there, you do not. or don't want to. so again, you should not be adding additional projectile links to the AI concretes. just like you shouldn't be spawning them upside down. some things are just bad practice, and should be avoided, even though they aren't crashing the game right away.
Posted by: TheHEX
« on: 08. August 2024, 18:10:02 »

so what is the implication that they will shoot slow projectiles and also new fast ones or what? i only observed them shooting new ones so i still dont see the issue. if theyre only doing what i want which is shooting fast projectiles why would i increase my work load to change it when its already doing what i want. i still dont get the reason.

is there a way for rumblers to drop worms or shoot them out WHILE running towards the player and melee attacking?
Posted by: voodoo47
« on: 08. August 2024, 13:58:56 »

well, if you are not happy with the mod, then feel free to continue working on it.

Quote by TheHEX:
Why can't i add new projectiles though i already tested it
yes, this will not crash the game or anything, it is however not what the mod should be doing - if the intention was to modify the projectile links so that the projectiles would pose more of a threat to the player, then that is what should be happening there. so edit links, not add new ones. I gave you an example of the proper code in the other topic.
Posted by: TheHEX
« on: 08. August 2024, 13:15:10 »

Why can't i add new projectiles though i already tested it

My current problems with this mod or with system shock 2 that i would like to change but can't:

Rumblers are a joke. I gave them 4x health and they are less of a joke now but they seem to tank grenades and the shotgun or ar seen much more effective in killing them then grenades. I don't think i ever actually got hit by a rumbler in multiple games. Maybe i should make them shoot worms out lol.

Grenades are just weird in vanilla and almost useless. Will probably increase their damage

Sometimes the enemies won't shoot me and just walk towards me instead. Sometimes they don't want to shoot at long range and my attempts at altering their ranged attack behavior proved ineffective

I absolutely hate that the shotgun mod is negating it's recoil. I wanted to make the shotguns recoil very heavy to balance out it's high damage but i can't

When i try to blow up piles of grubs it only blows a few of them up even though i increased the grenades splash range

All i can think of for now
Posted by: voodoo47
« on: 08. August 2024, 12:59:00 »

funnily enough, the gamesys dml making the mod incompatible with pretty much all that exists is not really a reason to reject the mod - as previously stated, managing (in)compatibility with other mods is completely up to the author, so if he is ok with the current state of affairs (this will almost inevitable push the mod into obscurity, as people want to run multiple mods almost always), then sure, his choice.

that however cannot be said about his attempt to modify already existing links on the map concretes, as mentioned, instead of modifying the links, the maps dmls are force-adding new ones. this clearly violates the "mod must do what is intended" rule.

so as far as I'm concerned, the mod is staying here until this is fixed. once it is, then we'll see.
Posted by: TheHEX
« on: 08. August 2024, 12:38:04 »

Look at this point i just want some ppl to play test it and give feedback because i feel like it's still too easy mostly. And leave it in engineering until i delete the scp5 data from the dml and finish my tweaking. All of this discussion is moot because mods not even done by my own standards. Problem is people won't really help me implement some of the changes i want
Posted by: sarge945
« on: 08. August 2024, 10:37:19 »

Here are just some examples of actual issues that are going to crop up as a result of this DML:

- This mod is incompatible with Heavily Tweaked because it sets the grenade launcher to require Heavy of 1 (default), whereas Heavily Tweaked sets it to 6. With proper DML, there's no reason why you shouldn't be able to use these mods together.
- This mod is incompatible with RSD for the same reasons it's incompatible with Heavily Tweaked.
- This mod is incompatible with any mod that changes weapon stats
- This mod is incompatible with any mod that changes enemy stats, even slightly.
- This mod is likely going to be VERY incompatible with SCP b6 and will require a complete rebuild when SCP b6 comes out officially, or in the best case, will have relatively minor (but still significant) unintended reversions and changes from SCP b6.

This mod also has some undocumented features that aren't in the readme, such as:

Many weapon requirements changed:
- Fusion Cannon requires Heavy of 3, STR of 6 and END of 6
- Assault Rifle requires END of 2, STR of 2, and 3 STD (dunno why you would want to make the AR even more accessible AND gain the benefits of scaling from higher STD levels, since it's already extremely overpowered)
- Grenade Launcher requires STR of 2, END of 2
- Worm Launcher requires Exotic of 3.
- Electro Shock only requires Energy of 1

And much more.

This DML is essentially a soup, and it's hard to tell what's intentionally changed and what is unintentionally copy pasted there, because nothing is documented. This is going to be a huge mess to both understand and maintain, both for the mod author and for everyone else trying to understand what the mod actually changes from SCP b5. When SCP b6 comes out, it will be even harder because there will be no way to tell what is intentionally changed vs what is simply different on account of SCP b6 changing archetypes, resulting in different values in the DML because they are based off SCP b5 values.

One of the major reasons why the Randomiser required no changes between SCP b4 and SCP b5 was because barely anything was touched in the DML, other than a few minor changes to existing objects (like adding physics to audio logs). Had I simply copy-pasted large segments of DML it would have been an absolute nightmare to update because it touches almost every object in the game in some form.

We aren't just telling you this to bully you. We are telling you this because at the end of the day the moderators here have to curate this mod collection, and we can't have everything breaking the moment something updates (especially SCP), or have random incompatibilities between everything, because it will cause no end of problems for everybody. If you don't have the ability (or the desire) to fix your mod compatibility before releasing it, perhaps it would be wise to listen rather than defensively lashing out against any and all valid criticism so that you don't make this same mistake next time.
Posted by: voodoo47
« on: 08. August 2024, 08:45:21 »

Quote by TheHEX:
a lot of things that are just incorrect
ok, let me clarify how this works to clear all potential future misunderstandings - if a regular forum member posts a mod, it will get moved to Recreation automatically. for it to be declared good to go, and moved to the mods subforum, it needs to be checked by a senior forum member, who will make sure it loads without errors, is not crashing the game, and is doing what is intended. if it's fine, the mod is moved to the mods subforum. if issues are found, the mod is moved to Engineering, and the author is advised to sort them out.


yes, I have quickly used the gameys dml size to gauge whether the mod is good to go or not. and I still stand by this, if you have more than four thousand lines there, it's either the scope of the mod is insane, or you are not doing it right. I kind of think it's the latter, but don't worry, if I dive in and find out it's actually the former, an apology will be issued, I have no problem with that.

so in your case, if the mod is found to meet the absolute minimum that would qualify it to be moved to the mods subforum, then it will be moved there, but as Join2 stated, a low compatibility warning will be added, most likely.


also no, nobody is out to get you, if someone were, you'd be out a long time ago. and the sarcasm started with your responses to the first batch of recommendations (which were absolutely neutral, ok this doesn't seem to be working properly, try this, do that) - yeah, you go lololol everyone else is wrong my stuff is great, you will get sarcasm, standard forum policy.
Posted by: Join2
« on: 08. August 2024, 07:28:52 »

"nor is it an unreasonable standard"

Yes it is.

1. Nowhere demands compatibility between mods as a requirement.
2. Sometimes a mod is designed to be it's own standalone thing.
3. It can be a lot of work, depending on the size of the mod and other factors.
4. It may not even be possible in some circumstances. This was the case for all of my mods with incompatibility.
5. I think you may be overlooking the fact that creating the mod in the first place may have been a monumental task for the individual. Not all modders are programmers by trade, just hobbyists.
6. Time is precious. Modding takes a lot of time. Even more so if entirely fresh-faced.

"and is just one extra step that mod makers should do. I do it, everyone else does it, why should anyone else be exempt,"

If it's really easy and quick, then sure whatever, it may not be a big ask of people. Nonetheless I feel sorry for OP getting jumped like this. And he has been "jumped". Unless I missed earlier context (I don't drop in here often), this is poor handling of a new member and modder to the community. Completely innocent contribution met with unnecessary rudeness. Though his reaction was even more extreme.

Eh whatever, internet will continue on internetting. Congrats on the release OP.
Posted by: sarge945
« on: 08. August 2024, 06:13:47 »

Quote by Join2:
Isn't modding this game pretty goddamn hard on a technical level relative to most other games?

Squirrel? Maybe. DML? Absolutely not. DML is extremely easy. Even a Javascript or Python programmer could learn it.

Quote by Join2:
Sorry, just getting deja vu from when attempting to release a huge mod in the past and getting jumped for not including optimized compatibility, which would have only been achievable by sacrificing the mod's most important feature and nor did I care for optimal compatibility anyway.

Compatibility helps everyone, and other mods are not going to be able to do as much unless every mod conforms to some basic standards. It's simple code hygiene that benefits everyone. Someone pointing out potential compatibility improvements isn't "getting jumped", neither is a mod needing to conform to a basic set of sanity checks. This goes doubly so when the average person will judge their experience based on picking and choosing random mods to run together. They won't read compatibility warnings, nor will they read readme files. Then, when a mod breaks a feature of a different mod due to compatibility, the other modder will receive unnecessary bug reports.

Making your projects compatible with others isn't just some nuisance requirement, nor is it an unreasonable standard. It's basic courtesy to other mod makers, and to players who want to be able to run multiple mods together without their game imploding in unexpected and difficult to debug ways.

Could ZB and Voodoo be less rude? Probably. But we can't just have massive sprawling DML mods on here, for various reasons, and "just release it as-is" isn't really a viable option. Removing redundancies in DML isn't difficult (even if it's slightly tedious), and is just one extra step that mod makers should do. I do it, everyone else does it, why should anyone else be exempt, especially if it means their mod is going to break things?
Posted by: TheHEX
« on: 08. August 2024, 05:18:52 »

sarge945
no im not talking about testing for bugs im talking testing for balance and gameplay dynamics.

it is very easy for someone to delete the snd folder in the mod.

they are out to get me but its ok. he keeps shifting the goalposts every time i respond. now its not picking at dumb stuff about my mod like spacers and the amount of lines of text which would remain static by the way i would simply block everything unused off with // for possible future edits... but now hes saying he does the same thing for all mods um no. im the only person that gets all my shit moved into engineering for no legitimate reason other than the fact that he hates what i do with my mod and how i change the game, probably.

"the gamesys has 4500+ lines, you probably have tons and tons of redundant code there. mission dmls look a bit slimmer, but I bet it's the same.
and mission dmls are force adding additional/new AIProjectile links. , to have the mod moved to the mods subforum, certain quality standards need to be met. pretty sure a 4500+ line gamesys dml would not qualify."

" they have to be checked by a senior forum member first. if the mod is loading properly, not crashing the game, and doing what the author describes, then, and only then it's moved to the mods subforum."

notice the difference.

he might have realized how absurd it is to try to dictate to someone how many lines of text can be in their dml within reason.... he might have a point if it took 5 minutes to load the text file.
Posted by: Join2
« on: 08. August 2024, 05:16:47 »

Isn't modding this game pretty goddamn hard on a technical level relative to most other games? Leave OP be. He said he is done, and if it passes the stated criteria of "it works and does what it says it does", then that is all that should matter.

Sorry, just getting deja vu from when attempting to release a huge mod in the past and getting jumped for not including optimized compatibility, which would have only been achievable by sacrificing the mod's most important feature and nor did I care for optimal compatibility anyway. It was a huge mod with a very specific vision, and designed disregarding full compatibility from the start, like 70% of my mods (making yuge mods is time-consuming enough as it is + extensive specific vision = go away). If people don't like that, simply don't play it.

Just be sure to state compatibility is low and in which ways.
Posted by: sarge945
« on: 08. August 2024, 03:44:45 »

Running a testing beta is pointless because you will need to remove 3/4 of the redundant DML to release it, which will require another round of testing anyway.

The reason why stomping on asset files is a last resort is because it makes the mod fundamentally incompatible with any other mod that edits asset files. Not to mention, if someone wants to use your mod, but doesn't want the silent assassins, it's much easier to edit a few lines of DML than it is to go hunting down which sound is which.

PLEASE, for the love of god, listen to the senior members here and stop acting like everyone is out to get you. ZB may be an ass but he also knows what he's doing when it comes to SS2 modding.
Posted by: icemann
« on: 08. August 2024, 03:25:12 »

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Posted by: TheHEX
« on: 08. August 2024, 03:12:12 »

ZylonBane
so you call everyone on the site names randomly? interesting.

"just delete the sounds in a much more complex way even though there are no negative consequences to muting the sounds"

logic please?

yea well maybe some time when i dont consider it a TESTING BETA as i fucking said in the message... (reading comprehension?) THEN i will take the precious time to delete some fucking spacer lines and plus signs that have not negatively impacted the gameplay in 2 or more test playthroughs? sound good guys? k thx.

it doesnt even matter though because they could just load another mod on top if they wanted and overwrite any of the default info contained in my mod.

why dont u 2 make yourselves useful for once and playtest it and post feedback.
Posted by: ZylonBane
« on: 07. August 2024, 19:13:54 »

Quote by voodoo47:
also no idea what do you mean by something at the top of the page.
Fecking lol, I bet he saw his name in the random message and thought it was some custom insult crafted just for him. The persecution complex is strong in this one.

Quote by TheHEX:
the sounds are for difficulty. i have muted most of the assassins sounds except his footsteps and pain/death so you dont know where they are.
If all you want to do is silence an AI's idle barks, just add AI Core/Broadcast Customization to it and deactivate the alert zero/one/two broadcasts. Stomping on asset files should be a last resort.

Quote by TheHEX:
so with the gamesys, i copy pasted everything i changed but also things i might change and i also use lots of enters and lines to organize everything so i can quickly scroll past it.

as far as new projectile links, i dont want to spend the time to delete the plus signs or whatever
Here's what you're not getting: The entire point of DMLs is to change ONLY the specific things needed to make a mod work, so the mod will be more likely to properly interoperate with other mods.

You're currently shotgunning so much default data into the gamesys that you may as well just be distributing the gamesys itself.
Posted by: voodoo47
« on: 07. August 2024, 17:41:33 »

ok, let's set the funnies aside for now.

this is standard process - nobody is allowed to post mods just like that, they have to be checked by a senior forum member first. if the mod is loading properly, not crashing the game, and doing what the author describes, then, and only then it's moved to the mods subforum.

so if you insist the mod is ready to go, then sure, I'll take a full look a bit later and see whether this is in a releasable state.


also no idea what do you mean by something at the top of the page.
Posted by: TheHEX
« on: 07. August 2024, 15:37:58 »

wait... are you actually able to answer my question or just be a sarcastic rude condescending piece of shit?... as usual

also.. do you have any legitimate reason to block me from adding this to the mods section when its... completed? having additional entries in the gamesys which i intentionally placed there so that i may easily edit the game, does not constitute "broken". your unnecessary unjustifiable gatekeeping and constant disparaging of my modding efforts is really tiresome and counterproductive.

and do you realize how stupid it is to constantly talk about how many lines the file has when i have told you.. and you have seen for yourself.. that i use large blank spots and lines of equal signs as spacers and for organization? it makes no sense. unless you're trying to tell me i cant make spacers in my gamesys... which is insane. did you like... get rejected from a police academy or something? you're starting to seem unhinged to me. on some kind of retarded pissing contest or power trip.

and what is this shit at the top of the page now? are you inserting personal attacks against me on your website now?
Posted by: voodoo47
« on: 07. August 2024, 14:31:27 »

the negative consequences of heheh I'm not quite sure what I'm doing is having the mod stuck over at Engineering (the work-in-progress place) until it's updated to be in a ohhoh now I actually do state.

this isn't NexusMods, to have the mod moved to the mods subforum, certain quality standards need to be met. pretty sure a 4500+ line gamesys dml would not qualify.
Posted by: TheHEX
« on: 07. August 2024, 12:44:36 »

oops dont know why its in recreation deck.

the sounds are for difficulty. i have muted most of the assassins sounds except his footsteps and pain/death so you dont know where they are.

so with the gamesys, i copy pasted everything i changed but also things i might change and i also use lots of enters and lines to organize everything so i can quickly scroll past it.

as far as new projectile links, i dont want to spend the time to delete the plus signs or whatever right now because i have already played this through on hard twice or more and its behaving as expected so i dont see any need. what are the foreseen negative consequences of force adding new projectile links? shooting a shitload of stuff at the player? heheh
Posted by: voodoo47
« on: 07. August 2024, 08:54:34 »

10 second check - why are sound files included, and again, the gamesys has 4500+ lines, you probably have tons and tons of redundant code there. mission dmls look a bit slimmer, but I bet it's the same.

and mission dmls are force adding additional/new AIProjectile links, are you really, really sure this is what you want to do? checked my explanation of how this works in your other topic?
Posted by: TheHEX
« on: 07. August 2024, 07:48:09 »

extreme difficulty mod looking to slow down the gameplay and make it more scary, methodical, cautious, intense. im not entirely happy with it right now... i think its still too ez even though i die sometimes. when i come back, i fix the issue that i had that caused my death and then its easy again. i dont think i got hit once by a rumbler despite me multiplying their health by 3 or 4 times? id like some ppl to play through a game and give me feedback. thanks.

the goal of this mod is to bring back the old feeling of the game when i was a kid and it was scary. also, to slow down the gameplay speed and make it more of a methodical tactical shooting type cover based experience. no running and gunning and sidestrafing all of the enemies attacks effortlessly here. care must be taken to ensure you have the proper abilities activated. psi powers on, implant, armor, ammo, guns ready, and moving carefully to avoid being quickly killed.

makes the monsters much more dangerous by increasing their damage output, attack speed, projectile speed, accuracy, reaction speed, movement speed, etc. some enemies have more health, some have less health.

update: doubled midwife and assassin health. doubled baby spider movement speed.
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