Posted by: Gio
« on: 06. April 2012, 17:52:16 »This.. I like this. It's been long enough since I last played that I don't remember the location of each and every camera, so this will make things.. interesting.
Posted by: XenoSpyro
« on: 01. September 2010, 00:13:32 »Yah the cameras are nothin to me now. I used to be scared by them like several years back, but now I know where every camera is exactly.
Perhaps if there was a level mod that changes camera loca-ooh I smell cookie '='
Perhaps if there was a level mod that changes camera loca-ooh I smell cookie '='
Posted by: Salk
« on: 16. August 2008, 13:26:03 »Quiet(er) bleeps because then it will be harder for the player to hear them without paying attention to it.
Posted by: miracle.flame
« on: 16. August 2008, 08:14:48 »Quiet bleeps? Why?
Randomized camera placement would be complicated mod incompatibile with most other mods. But it is possible. Would be fine feature of Zygoptera's Randomiser.
Randomized camera placement would be complicated mod incompatibile with most other mods. But it is possible. Would be fine feature of Zygoptera's Randomiser.
Posted by: Glory to the Many
« on: 16. August 2008, 00:56:12 »Is it possible to have randomized camera placement?
Posted by: Salk
« on: 15. August 2008, 11:17:50 »Perhaps an alternate solution would be to just lower the noise the cams make to a very low level. It should be a very easy thing to do.
Posted by: miracle.flame
« on: 12. August 2008, 21:37:26 »the SND directory should go under your SShock2 directory.. but it depends much what you have set in your install.cfg
Posted by: R-800
« on: 12. August 2008, 06:39:25 »This mod is an excellent idea, and very necessary in my opinion. It makes "listening" to the wonderful ambient effects in the game that much more important.
Unfortunately, I can't get the mod to work. I extracted the files into a mod-ready game folder, and I still get warning chirps from cameras. Did I not put some of the files where they belong?
I don't use modmanager, for reasons I can't go into right now. So assume I'm going to be applying the mod directly. Thanks.
R-800
Unfortunately, I can't get the mod to work. I extracted the files into a mod-ready game folder, and I still get warning chirps from cameras. Did I not put some of the files where they belong?
I don't use modmanager, for reasons I can't go into right now. So assume I'm going to be applying the mod directly. Thanks.
R-800
Posted by: miracle.flame
« on: 28. March 2008, 20:36:41 »It's hard to say what's average but just try it without mod and if you set off alarm quite often even with the pathetic warnings present then you probably don't need to make it harder with this.
Posted by: Gaco
« on: 28. March 2008, 20:30:47 »The guy I'm planning on lending my copy of SS2 has played some FPS in the past but I don't think he's an expert. I'm thinking that perhaps only the really FPS noobs won't benefit from this mod but even the normal/average players will?If you are really good at fps then go for it.. that will boost fun factor a lot. Anyway when playing on the second go you usually already know where all the cameras are so not much deal.
Posted by: miracle.flame
« on: 28. March 2008, 20:00:14 »If you are really good at fps then go for it.. that will boost fun factor a lot. Anyway when playing on the second go you usually already know where all the cameras are so not much deal.
Posted by: Gaco
« on: 28. March 2008, 19:56:45 »Would you guys recommend or not recommend this mod for someone who is playing the game for the first time (I'm planning on pushing it to a friend)? When I think back the security system was definently too easy to circumvent, and I have also looked at the flatliner mod (https://www.systemshock.org/index.php/topic,58.html) but I think I'll let it be in fear of bugs etc., it's more of a risk..
Posted by: miracle.flame
« on: 28. September 2007, 07:31:44 »I've used files from U&RMM v1 which are based on ADaoB 0.2.6.
To be exact...
rec2.mis map has contrary to ADaoB additional QBfilters and switched traps that could be activated only when some of Ultimate Spawn script is present...which is absolutely harmless and should have no impact on game without Ultimate Spawn.
shock2.gam has contrary to ADaoB additional archetypes in object hierarchy... that is new med/sci doors and signs.. but they are not used in original game so they just sit there in the database and do nothing... harmless likewise with no impact on what players see.
UPDATE:
Because you can use this one with ANY mods you wish to have without fearing compatibility issues.
To be exact...
rec2.mis map has contrary to ADaoB additional QBfilters and switched traps that could be activated only when some of Ultimate Spawn script is present...which is absolutely harmless and should have no impact on game without Ultimate Spawn.
shock2.gam has contrary to ADaoB additional archetypes in object hierarchy... that is new med/sci doors and signs.. but they are not used in original game so they just sit there in the database and do nothing... harmless likewise with no impact on what players see.
UPDATE:
But then, why not just use SecMod (of which silent cameras was among the first features added), instead?
Because you can use this one with ANY mods you wish to have without fearing compatibility issues.
Posted by: Kolya
« on: 28. September 2007, 01:06:38 »Because I haven't played SecMod. I'm waiting for the second version since...I've forgotten. But it's been some time. 
Apart from this SecMod makes a lot more changes. I admit I didn't know that this was one of them but I still can see a benefit in having this one feature available in a separate mod.
Some people want everything in one mod, I actually prefer being able to cherry-pick.
The rec2.mis was from the latest ADaoB if I understand this correctly? I'm asking because then we could incorporate it with ADaoB. As much as I'd love to have the visibility of all broken doors fixed in one go I wouldn't want to put in the shock2.gam since even if it has no ill effects on ADaoB it certainly includes more changes than just the doors.
Apart from this SecMod makes a lot more changes. I admit I didn't know that this was one of them but I still can see a benefit in having this one feature available in a separate mod.
Some people want everything in one mod, I actually prefer being able to cherry-pick.
Cool, that was fast.Found it. Fixed it.
It's compatible with U&RMM but should be absolutely fine without any side effects on ADaoB too.
The rec2.mis was from the latest ADaoB if I understand this correctly? I'm asking because then we could incorporate it with ADaoB. As much as I'd love to have the visibility of all broken doors fixed in one go I wouldn't want to put in the shock2.gam since even if it has no ill effects on ADaoB it certainly includes more changes than just the doors.
Posted by: Nameless Voice
« on: 27. September 2007, 23:51:56 »I see this as an increased difficulty mod for advanced players. Once you played through the game a few times you know most of their locations and they just aren't the threat they used to be anymore. This mod can help to put that fear back in.
But then, why not just use SecMod (of which silent cameras was among the first features added), instead?
Posted by: miracle.flame
« on: 27. September 2007, 23:01:26 »Found it. Fixed it.
Didn't ever notice that broken doors didn't block vision nor sound.
rec2.mis fixes only this one particular door.
shock2.gam fixes just about any type of broken door on any map.
It's compatible with U&RMM but should be absolutely fine without any side effects on ADaoB too.
[took the files down because there was suspiciously high count of downloads like if people thought it's a good idea to install it as another mod... Nevermind those fixes are long time already part of up to date ADaoB or UARMM versions]
Didn't ever notice that broken doors didn't block vision nor sound.
rec2.mis fixes only this one particular door.
shock2.gam fixes just about any type of broken door on any map.
It's compatible with U&RMM but should be absolutely fine without any side effects on ADaoB too.
[took the files down because there was suspiciously high count of downloads like if people thought it's a good idea to install it as another mod... Nevermind those fixes are long time already part of up to date ADaoB or UARMM versions]
Posted by: Kolya
« on: 27. September 2007, 22:37:02 »I think it's the door that has steam coming through the sides. It's supposed to be "broken", that is it never opens. Behind it is a room where a bot breaks through the wall when you enter (through another door).
A fix would probably best be applied to a MIS file from ADaoB.
A fix would probably best be applied to a MIS file from ADaoB.
Posted by: miracle.flame
« on: 27. September 2007, 22:20:10 »if someone could specificaly explain which door it is I could try to fix it
Posted by: Kolya
« on: 27. September 2007, 21:26:24 »I see this as an increased difficulty mod for advanced players. Once you played through the game a few times you know most of their locations and they just aren't the threat they used to be anymore. This mod can help to put that fear back in. Also miracle.freak left the camera alarm sound in. So you still know when you were spotted. Only after it happened.
It's certainly not for first timers.
BTW that door on Rec deck needs fixing.
It's certainly not for first timers.
BTW that door on Rec deck needs fixing.
Posted by: miracle.flame
« on: 27. September 2007, 20:06:30 »Triggering the alarm doesn't mean game over.
Hell original cameras are so lame that it's possible to complete the whole game without even triggering the alarm once. That's oh so low. Why do you think the cameras are there? Cheap targets for slow players? Well those can pretty ignore this mod.
Triggering the alarm is real and FUN...if you can't spot it before it spots you. oh when the alarms up everyone knows it's because of camera.
Hell original cameras are so lame that it's possible to complete the whole game without even triggering the alarm once. That's oh so low. Why do you think the cameras are there? Cheap targets for slow players? Well those can pretty ignore this mod.
Triggering the alarm is real and FUN...if you can't spot it before it spots you. oh when the alarms up everyone knows it's because of camera.
Posted by: ZylonBane
« on: 27. September 2007, 19:59:39 »Unrealistic? Yes. Essential? Also yes.
Those chirping noises are often the only way to know if a camera is around. There's a place in Rec deck where you can be spotted by a camera that's on the other side of a closed door! Without the noises, players would end up triggering security alerts without knowing why. And that would suck.
Those chirping noises are often the only way to know if a camera is around. There's a place in Rec deck where you can be spotted by a camera that's on the other side of a closed door! Without the noises, players would end up triggering security alerts without knowing why. And that would suck.
Posted by: Kolya
« on: 27. September 2007, 15:05:24 »Well done! The odd warnings of the security cameras before they actually sound an alarm really were an obviously unrealistic trait in the game.
Posted by: miracle.flame
« on: 27. September 2007, 10:18:05 »Tags: °sound °SS2
If you too consider camera bleeps pathetic like shouting "Shoot me! Quickly shoot me!" this is what you want. (like if industrial cameras have their own reproductors anyway..bah)
It's the easiest and fully compatibile way to mute all these bleeps.
The ambient buzzing of camera movement mechanics is still there as well as alarm set-off sound.
If you too consider camera bleeps pathetic like shouting "Shoot me! Quickly shoot me!" this is what you want. (like if industrial cameras have their own reproductors anyway..bah)
It's the easiest and fully compatibile way to mute all these bleeps.
The ambient buzzing of camera movement mechanics is still there as well as alarm set-off sound.
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