The Topic Of Fail

[6744f0588003dfox]

Did someone say Bobby Kotick?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GN4MEPqXWlg

[6744f058801b9fox]

RPS: "Former Starbreeze CFO Sebastian Ahlskog convicted of insider trading"

You have to have a higher level to pull this off properly - take a look at Brian Krzanich, for  example.

[6744f05880386voodoo47]

how to almost fail spectacularly, but turn things around by listening to the fans/customers, and win completely instead - or the story of Sonic the Hedgehog movie.

looks like if you give the fans/customers what they want, they'll shower you with money. such a radical, almost impossible to understand concept - who would have thunk. take notes, everyone with an old ip trying to make remakes/expand to other areas of entertainment.

[6744f05880552icemann]

That movies had the best opening of a video game movie ever.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=on_CvQvRQyk

Done better even than Mortal Kombat, which is my favorite video game movie. We do not speak of the sequel.

[6744f058806a3voodoo47]

we most certainly don't.

the point is (as I've been saying for a while), no matter what you do, no matter how smart you think you are, or how great your ideas are, do NOT piss the fans off - because they KNOW what they want. this seems to be rather hard to grasp, but hey, if they can't understand words, maybe that hundred million bucks Sonic made so far can penetrate those thick, entitled skulls of theirs.

[6744f0588084dicemann]

Well compare it to what we got with the Super Mario Bros movie, where it had nothing from the game whatsoever in there.

[6744f05880acaKolya]

There's often not a homogenous group of fans who all want the same. The job of a producer is to try and cater to the largest common denominator. At least if we're talking of non-films like video game adaptions and superhero movies. And AAA games.
So this "just listen to the fans" strategy is a bit simplified, because you might easily end up getting 5 opinions from 3 fans.
Still, props to the Sonic makers for recognizing a critical mass, which isn't easy at all with the pissed off ones always being the loudest.

[6744f05880ca3voodoo47]

true, but it seems like there are a few things that are sure to piss everyone off. the current strategy seems to be lets do exactly that most of the time (and then blame the fans and their close-mindedness when the product goes down in flames).

[6744f05880e58icemann]

The same thing goes with movie remakes. Stray too far from the original and you risk alienating your core audience. However if you stray too close (as a 1 to 1 remake) then people will question what the point of seeing it is. Like with the recent Lion King remake vs the Aladdin remake last year. Aladdin being FAR superior, and a worthy film to watch alongside the cartoon original.

[6744f05881054voodoo47]

and one more for Blizzard - a 2003 xbox build of Starcraft: Ghost has leaked.

[6744f0588113eicemann]

And its not a bad game.

The Blizzard game that I'll be forever pissed that we didn't get was that point and click adventure game set in the Warcraft universe. That looked excellent.

[6744f0588130avoodoo47]

weeell, that (Warcraft Adventures) has also leaked a couple of years ago - apart from needing winxp to run, and a bunch of missing sounds and animations, the game is complete, if memory servers. go Blizzard.

anyway;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ATutWS9FeM

yeah.

[6744f05881476icemann]

Yeah I know about the leaked version. I want the real deal. Fully finished.

[6744f058815c1voodoo47]

ah Bethesda.. seems like your failure indeed is eternal.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E2hytfsXExM

"The head of whomever thought this was a good marketing strategy belongs impaled on a stick next to that damn rabbit's."

[6744f058816e7fox]

Because of the music?

[6744f058818c0voodoo47]

if it can be called that. to quote another comment - "Bethesda: remember that MK11 trailer everyone hated because of the awful rap music? yeah, LETS DO THAT".

[6744f05881b0ffox]

Should've used some kickass metal song, imo. They obviously have a younger generation in mind though. Not shitstorm-worthy to me. Game looks more like Unreal Tournament then Doom to me. Classic Doom had pretty fast movement and often many enemies from multiple directions too but it wasn't quite as breathless and sensory overload all the time. There also was at least some dark atmosphere - now it's all hyper hyper in the amusement park.

Looks nice but I already feel nauseated after watching 5 minutes of someone playing it on Youtube. It's a matter of taste and truth be told, I always preferred semi-tactical and more grounded shooters like Delta Force, Joint Operations or Battlefield over the faster paced arcadey fantasy stuff. Return to Castle Wolfenstein was pretty okay too.

[6744f05881d44voodoo47]

yeah, it's not like the game has a ton of that already available, right? also, I don't think any mind was involved in this - not a working one, anyway.

not really a shitstorm, but definitely worthy of a "yeah, it's Bethesda" facepalm. and another fine example of the "everyone will hate that, so lets do it" creed many seem to be adhering to nowadays.

[6744f05881f7aZylonBane]

Hell, even I made a better Doom Eternal trailer than that.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=52PQpC0XKtk

[6744f05882178icemann]

Oh man that Doom commercial music is horrible. If it's Doom you just have to put metal music in there. I get that metal is not "popular" on the radio at present, but who cares.

[6744f0588233avoodoo47]

I've actually tried to mute the original video and play the Looney Toons theme in the background. it made things better.

also, power/defiance/courage? how about annihilate/mutilate/rage. they are just clueless.

[6744f05882488fox]

The teaser is not just suffering from the music, it's also rather bland in terms of the images and editing.

[6744f0588255evoodoo47]

rumors of the RE3 Remake being the latest victim of inappropriate alterations floating around - Nemesis having a too revealing skirt now or something?

[6744f058827ebKolya]

I wouldn't know (never been into that franchise) but there's a demo available since yesterday: https://store.steampowered.com/app/1173690/Resident_Evil_3_Raccoon_City_Demo/
So I guess you can check out their skirts now?