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681ad2ffe72bevoodoo47

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1.01 is up, Secmod support added to both the vanilla, and Rebirth zip. also, much to my chagrin, I've found out that Polaris, while technically working ok with the mod (meaning, it's applied properly and doesn't break anything), has no spawn points that would actually spawn pipe hybrids, so loading it does nothing.

dml modified Polaris mission spawns to remedy this. so basically, doing the dumb spawn edit to make the smart spawn edit work. hilarious.

681ad2ffe746cDeu sex

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I think I have problems with the mod:

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1049725554?t=01h47m20s

(sorry for my horrible english, hope you can forgive me haha)

681ad2ffe75a1voodoo47

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99% sure NVscript is not up to date. repatch with the tool in update mode, or grab it here if you want to do it manually (OSM folder).

this will probably only fix future spawns.

681ad2ffe76c7Deu sex

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My SS2 is already as up to date as it can be from SS2 tool :

SS2Tool Log
Version: 6.1.1.8
19.01.2021 3:14:25
You have the latest version of SS2Tool

or maybe you were referring to something else

681ad2ffe77c0Deu sex

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anyways, I manually replaced the file you refered to me in the "osm" folder, I'll try things later :)

681ad2ffe78cfvoodoo47

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I see you have saved the game - can you make that save available?

also, are other pistol hybrids ok, and it's just this one that's broken, or are they all broken? you should have encountered a few on your way to medsci2 unless the rng was on a vacation.

681ad2ffe79b4Deu sex

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It's working now thanks to the new file you provided, thanks !
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681ad2ffe7ac2B.a.n.e.Z.y.l.o.n

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OMG! This is brilliant. It makes so much sense. It makes me wonder why it wasn't a part of the game to begin with.

I would give this my seal of approval, if I had such a thing.

681ad2ffe7bfavoodoo47

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they would most likely have to replicate the vanilla shotgun hybrid setup (proper weapon attachments are a NewDark exclusive feature). I'm guessing they were not too fond of that idea - the way the vanilla sg hybrid and its weapon work kind of sucks.

also, the entered guest name is not the only identifier visible to us, Eddie.
« Last Edit: 02. July 2021, 23:15:40 by voodoo47 »

681ad2ffe7cf1B.a.n.e.Z.y.l.o.n

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Still, small things like this breathe new life to the game. I wish they did it like this to in the fist place.

Also, I am not sure what you mean, Venom.

681ad2ffe7e27voodoo47

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if their game were perfect, this conversation would not be taking place. so being flawed actually is a good thing, as seeing the flaws will create the desire for improvement, which sparks invention and attracts ingenuity, and that drives things forward. if everything was perfect to begin with, there would be no need for any action, hence, all would become nothing in the end. because that is what perfection essentially is - the end of all things.

a thousand eyes look.

681ad2ffe7f53B.a.n.e.Z.y.l.o.n

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True enough I suppose. I would be hesitant to call the original game perfect or even polished, there are fundamental issues with the way the game was developed and they certainly rushed to the end, yet they still managed to create an amazing game. Having said that, some of the missing features are inexpiable and having them in the original game makes a lot of logical sense. Which is what I meant.



The Many protects us.
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uhh, i don't think it's supposed to be like this

681ad2ffe84bavoodoo47

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SS2tool patched SS2 install required (if you have patched your SS2 install before 14 march 2021, you need to run the tool in the update mode to get the latest NVscript).

681ad2ffea462sarge945

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uhh, i don't think it's supposed to be like this



What do you mean? For lore reasons, that hybrid was crushed in a trash compactor. And you're saying he looks "wrong". Stop being so insensitive towards those who look different😂
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sarge945

Damn, I guess you're right. Guess he's just a bit special then.
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681ad2ffeabacZylonBane

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If memory serves, that's what happens when an AI is missing its CAL file.

Also Vektor is using an outdated version of 400.

681ad2ffead02voodoo47

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yeah, but the CAL is in the package, double checked. so 99.9% sure NVscript is not up to date (as not applying the correct model is exactly what will happen if that's the case). the only other scenario I can imagine here is antivirus shooting down the CAL when extracting, but that is unlikely.

anyway, update NVscript either by repatching with the tool, or manually, and all future spawns should be ok.
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voodoo47After playing a while longer and finally encountering another pistol hybrid in the cargo bays, I can confirm that this did solve the problem. Thanks man!
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681ad2ffeb0e2Deu sex

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seems the pistol hybrid rebirth doesn't work anymore with the newest Rebirth v05b, I'll try to revert to v05 (not b) and see if it works again. maybe that's just me who screwed my mod order idk
-> nevermid even the older one has the same problem... I must have fucked up somewhere while revamping my mod order.. What's weird though, is that shard hybrid works perfectly fine. I'm gonna try new games and swap mod orders, it's going to be tedious, but it is what it is.
« Last Edit: 25. August 2021, 17:16:06 by Deu sex »

681ad2ffeb1f1voodoo47

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works ok for me - try to be a bit more specific about the issue.

681ad2ffeb34bDeu sex

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sorry I'm at a loss... I tried pretty much everything, I always start a new game in easy, can't seem to be able to make them spawn anymore, this is what my mod order looks like: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/802306525314023436/880157516988825620/unknown.png

681ad2ffeb464voodoo47

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set failchance to 0 in gamesys.dml, enter the game, open console and type in summon_obj og-pipe, see whether a pistol hybrid spawns.

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