SS2 TF's Secmod 2.8 [obsolete]

[6742ea7142deam3450]

The first thing to do, when something goes wrong, is to find some scripts to blame it on.

A crash every minute or two sounds more like a hyperthreading / dual core issue.

     Don't take everything so personally. mhmm never had a single problem with crashing before this mod... oh so you know all about my pc huh? care to give me more details? What is that one program called again? ss2 talls? ss2 teels? oh right. ss2 tools. gotcha. you know the one that fixes hyperthreading issues. you should know you obviously know everything about my pc.

[6742ea714324fSalk]

Salk:  Both of those mods change the game completely, SecMod more so than any other.  Most of the fixes from Miracle Freak's mod (e.g. the stuff from ADaOB) should be in SecMod2.

Are you saying you've never played SS2 before?  Then you should play it first without any mods, most especially not something which changes the game as much as SecMod.

Well, I do thank you for your advice but I will not follow it because I can't know if I am ever going to play the game more than once (most likely not - I have great games in queue waiting to be played) and I strongly believe in offering myself the best experience that a modded game can give so I am surely going to install some mods.

It's just a matter of making a selection here but I hope that miracle.freak will help me with it again.

[6742ea714337djohnnythewolf]

Jesus, this mod is hard on Impossible. It's like all the hybrids are now using a SpeedBoost implant. Since I'm tired of dying over and over again before reaching the first QBRM, I decreased the difficulty level to "Hard"... I hope I'm not missing too much.

Anyway, awesome stuff.

[6742ea71438b9Nameless Voice]

     Don't take everything so personally. mhmm never had a single problem with crashing before this mod... oh so you know all about my pc huh? care to give me more details? What is that one program called again? ss2 talls? ss2 teels? oh right. ss2 tools. gotcha. you know the one that fixes hyperthreading issues. you should know you obviously know everything about my pc.

Now who's taking things personally here?
It's quite possible that it is the scripts, but that doesn't change the fact that people always blame them first without evidence.  For example, trying to run the game without NVScript.osm to see if the problem disappears.

Well, I do thank you for your advice but I will not follow it because I can't know if I am ever going to play the game more than once (most likely not - I have great games in queue waiting to be played) and I strongly believe in offering myself the best experience that a modded game can give so I am surely going to install some mods.

Using mods which vastly alter Looking Glass' vision for the game is hardly the best experience.  There's one scene in particular in SecMod which I always felt ruined the feel of an important event in the original story, for example.

[6742ea7143a59Salk]

NamelessVoice,

I do understand what you are saying and to a certain extent, I do agree with you. I played other non modded Looking Glass titles before (Thief and System Shock (1)) and I could taste the high quality of their productions.

But I always believe that things can be improved. My favourite CRPG is a game that I played without any Mod (loving it) and later again with a numerous amount of Mods. The result is that a great game became simply extraordinary. I would never recommend to play it without some "must-have" mods while others are a more subjective matter.

Most of the Mods I intend to install for System Shock 2 should be pretty transparent (SHTUP and SHMUP) while ADaoB - from what I understood - is a sort of unofficial patch which I have not yet found a reason for not want it installed.

SecMod2.1 might or not might be to my liking while I do know miracle.freak's UARMM has everything to make me think the game would be more enjoyable with it.

Again, thanks for your opinion! ;-)

[6742ea7143bc9miracle.flame]

Salk, if you're going for kickass gameplay only once then go for SecMod2, there's nothing better on the scene atm imho.

If you consider playing twice you may pick UARMM first as it's quite not far fetched from original gameplay (basically ADaoB+spawn modes+some graphical enhancements in first two levels).

If you want three rounds you may put Alyamod in the middle.

[6742ea7143fddThiefsieFool]

Jesus, this mod is hard on Impossible. It's like all the hybrids are now using a SpeedBoost implant. Since I'm tired of dying over and over again before reaching the first QBRM, I decreased the difficulty level to "Hard"... I hope I'm not missing too much.


Awesome stuff.

You won't be missing anything by picking a lower difficulty, there's no difficulty-specific areas or anything.

[6742ea71442d1johnnythewolf]

You won't be missing anything by picking a lower difficulty, there's no difficulty-specific areas or anything.
also thanx but no spoilers plz!!

Yeah, well, considering it happens at the very beginning of the game, it's not a big spoiler, but okay, I'll edit my post. Just make sure you do the same with your quote.

On another subject, I know nobody reads them, but you might want to edit the information given by the info panels regarding the security crates. Last time I checked, it's still written that they explode in case of failure.

Also, I noticed that enemies tend to gather around hacked cameras.

[6742ea71443e6m3450]

Typical deleting of posts. Why don't you sensor namelessvoice who got overly defencive. oh lets just have his buddies jump in to defend him.

[6742ea714456fKolya]

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If there's anything you want to discuss about our moderation or moderators please do so by PMing me.
Please stay on topic.

[6742ea7144712johnnythewolf]

I'm getting crashes on Hydro. For some reasons, it always happens during shootouts with shotgun hybrids. The first time, I was firing a HP bullet at a hybrid in the long corridor at the left of the elevator. The second time, it happened during an alarm, as I was unloading a standard pistol clip on another hybrid.

EDIT: Also, it crashes very often near the environmental regulator not far from the QBRM, in Hydro C. Destroying an egg, throwing a cesium bomb or even just being there seem enough to cause crashes.

[6742ea7144999Rainalkar]

Try to rename hydro DIF file (in SS2 dir) into something else or move it.

[6742ea7144c35Assassin]

Try to rename hydro DIF file (in SS2 dir) into something else or move it.

Nope,2 years ago that didn't work for me.I had to summon the Super Duper Fusion Cannon just to open the door to sector A.

[6742ea7144f38Goblin]

Having multiplayer issues here - we cannot procede to engineering, the client gets "Waiting for other players..." immediately before crashing. Works without 'NVScript.osm', like suggested in a previous post.

[6742ea71458adNameless Voice]

Try to rename hydro DIF file (in SS2 dir) into something else or move it.

No, SecMod does not have the Hydro2 bug.  This won't fix anything.

Having multiplayer issues here - we cannot procede to engineering, the client gets "Waiting for other players..." immediately before crashing. Works without 'NVScript.osm', like suggested in a previous post.

Known issue, multiplayer is not currently properly supported.  It works sometimes, other times not.
There may be a patch.

[6742ea71459d7Viol3ntMelon]

So is this mod compatible with AdaoB latest version(whatever) and Hi-Torque Complete Med/Sci changes?
It worked when I shut AdaoB off, but its THE unofficial patch, can I live without it?

[6742ea7145ae7miracle.flame]

This mod IS NOT compatibile with ANY *.mis or *.gam mod! Which those two mentioned are.
BUT!
It should have all ADaoB fixes so better read details first to know what you want and what you get. It doesn't have Hi-Torque Complete Med/Sci changes but if I'm right it has TF's Complete SS2 changes. Again read what you get.

[6742ea7145d86Viol3ntMelon]

This mod IS NOT compatibile with ANY *.mis or *.gam mod! Which those two mentioned are.
BUT!
It should have all ADaoB fixes so better read details first to know what you want and what you get. It doesn't have Hi-Torque Complete Med/Sci changes but if I'm right it has TF's Complete SS2 changes. Again read what you get.

Thanks for the help, I'm new to this. I'll just disable those 2 and play.

[6742ea7145f44miracle.flame]

I have a suspision that I've stumbled upon some severe bug/cheat

I've noticed some soft beep noises and after check I saw I had more CMs than I was suposed to. More exactly I had 11 instead of 9. I wanted to make sure and load a quicksave from minute ago. So I made another save first. But it overwrote my quicksave as well so no banana. Strange thing anyway when I loaded this fresh save I suddenly had only 3 CMs! A bug I guess because I remember I picked those 9 CMs in that particular area. Then after some time I heard the beep again. And I had 4 CMs. I toyed around and found out that when I was swapping light armor with hazard suit slowly new CMs appeared along with beeps. I don't understand how it works but after a while I was able to hamster 17 CMs just by swapping armors (slowly!).

At that time I was at cargo bays in engineering and I had picked Naturally able trait (bonus CM for every 10 CM gained). Maybe the trait has something to do with that strange behavior but it's only my guess.

[6742ea71460a4Nameless Voice]

Very interesting.  Sounds like a bug with the cyber module counter that is responsible for the +10% bonus.  I'll look into this.

Edit: Okay, that should be fixed in the next patch.  Assuming there will be one.

[6742ea71461c6Liam]

There is somthing that confuses me with this mod . Why when i do serten things a hypo drops from no where. Like in medsci1 a Psi hypo just spawned from no were when i opend a desk. When i loaded a save and opend the desk the psi hypo didnt spawn. In engernering when i was about to go frow the radiotion when i used a speed booster hypo a emptey hypo spawned. Dose any one know why this happends.

[6742ea71462eeNameless Voice]

You get empty hypos when you use a hypo.  If you already have one in your inventory, they will stack with that, otherwise they will be dropped on the ground.  Empty hypos can be used for some inventory combinations.

[6742ea71463ddmiracle.flame]

becuase when you use one you still can keep (or throw away) the empty case...like in real life... you don't inject the whole thing in your veins.

[6742ea71464ceAssassin]

Anyone up for a multy?Im in eastern europe and I have 50 megabit connection to all europe.Haven't played for quite a while.