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6751105325456Enchantermon

Re: System Shock runs natively on Windows (no music)
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-Sliders may be "torn off" from their widgets and moved around the screen as mouse pointer images (no idea if this used to happen in the original game too)
I don't know if this happens in a completely vanilla game, but I do know that it's not specific to this mod.

67511053255f4gaspalorz

Re: System Shock runs natively on Windows (no music)
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Confirmed: Both OCDSHOCK.EXE ("from" shlink) and CDSHOCK.EXE (from SSP) ran through DOSbox do not exhibit this behavior. Sliders move only within their respective boundaries.

Torn off slider:
Image: http://i.imgur.com/ZHrpk.png

6751105325716Enchantermon

Re: System Shock runs natively on Windows (no music)
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It can't be specific to this; I have never used this mod and have experienced the same thing.

6751105325804gaspalorz

Re: System Shock runs natively on Windows (no music)
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Understood. But have you experienced it in vanilla or in a modded System Shock?

675110532590bEnchantermon

Re: System Shock runs natively on Windows (no music)
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As I said earlier, it may have been introduced with ToxicFrog's high resolution patches. Try installing one with SSP and see if it produces the problem.

6751105325a3agaspalorz

Re: System Shock runs natively on Windows (no music)
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I've checked following configurations and different resolutions, but couldn't reproduce this bug in any way:

-unmodded SSP through DGVESA
-unmodded SSP through DOSbox
-SSP through DGVESA + mouselook
-SSP through DGVESA + TF's 800x600
-SSP through DOSbox + mouselook
-SSP through DOSbox + TF's 800x600

6751105325e47Malba Tahan

Re: System Shock runs natively on Windows (no music)
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Second, I'd like to report few issues regarding shlink input:
-pressing Caps Lock or / (forward slash) causes it to terminate unconditionally
-pressing ? (shift + /) causes it to permanently freeze with sound repeating in a tight loop (aargh)
-F11/F12 (gamma controls) buttons have their functions switched, eg. when I press F11, HUD will display "gamma raised" message, yet everything gets darker (vice versa with F12)
-Sliders may be "torn off" from their widgets and moved around the screen as mouse pointer images (no idea if this used to happen in the original game too)
Thanks for bug-reporting, I'll take a look at them.

6751105325f91gaspalorz

Re: System Shock runs natively on Windows (no music)
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Uh oh! It seems that gamma controls are already switched in vanilla game :hardcore:
"?" is supposed to show keyboard layout.

675110532612aShadowcat

Re: System Shock runs natively on Windows (no music)
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More amazing work, Malba. Thank you!

If you're still pondering a name for this, and were keen on something similar to "shlink", "Slinky" springs to mind :) (I can't think of any way to connect the purpose of the software with a Slinky, mind, but it would certainly be an easy name to remember!)

6751105326329CodSlap

Re: System Shock runs natively on Windows (no music)
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Or you could go for Snow... Shock Natively on Windows? :D I'm still head over heels about SSP with your mouselook, but getting SS to run natively on a modern OS would most likely eradicate all performance issues. Also, people would be more inclined to play the game again, and we'd be one step closer to a complete remake. One can dream... :)

6751105326511gaspalorz

Re: System Shock runs natively on Windows (no music)
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Malba, there is one more issue to be added to the bug tracker: when using surveillance screens (like the one on Med, overlooking the energy door), it is possible to move mouse vertically (effectively panning the virtual camera up and down). Horizontal movement is suspended, yet the compass is spinning wildly. It also causes the game to bail out from time to time.

There is also a weird "fish-eye" effect on wall textures when using low settings, but this may be related to my graphics card (note: this doesn't happen when running through DOSbox). Anyway, good luck!

The ultimate question: how should this project's name be written: SHLINK, Shlink or shlink?

67511053267afSynaesthesia

  • Company: Night Dive Studios
Re: System Shock runs natively on Windows (no music)
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The texture distortion is caused by the settings for texture rendering. Why would you run it on low, anyhow? It was like that even on a 386.

6751105326e00Malba Tahan

Re: System Shock runs natively on Windows (no music)
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Malba, there is one more issue to be added to the bug tracke
I'll take a look at the camera bugs later.

The ultimate question: how should this project's name be written: SHLINK, Shlink or shlink?
Since this project doesn't have an official name yet, pick the one you think that looks better.

6751105326f79gaspalorz

Re: System Shock runs natively on Windows (no music)
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I am sorry, this texture distortion also happens in vanilla game played through DOSbox.

Of course, there is no reason to play in low detail, I'm only pointing out it looks at least weird when compared to other modes.

6751105327143Nameless Voice

Re: System Shock runs natively on Windows (no music)
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That looks kind of cool actually, curved wall surfaces!

6751105327289gaspalorz

Re: System Shock runs natively on Windows (no music)
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R-grade acid trip enhancement activated.

Now you can truly feel the limitations of your mind slipping away!
Re: System Shock runs natively on Windows (no music)
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Ha! That's SS2! NOT CANON in a SS1 context! ;)

6751105327535Enchantermon

Re: System Shock runs natively on Windows (no music)
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I don't know about that...R-grade implants were outlawed after the events of Citadel Station, so wouldn't the enhancements the Hacker got in SS1 also be R-grade?
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Yeah, but "feel the limitations of your mind slipping away" is something that sexy OPS trainer said on earth. (And all we got was a needle in the arm!)

6751105327764Enchantermon

Re: System Shock runs natively on Windows (no music)
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Oh. I didn't remember that.
Re: System Shock runs natively on Windows (no music)
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Malba, there is one more issue to be added to the bug tracker: when using surveillance screens (like the one on Med, overlooking the energy door), it is possible to move mouse vertically (effectively panning the virtual camera up and down). Horizontal movement is suspended, yet the compass is spinning wildly. It also causes the game to bail out from time to time.
This happens in vanilla SS in DOSBOX as well. You'll also notice you can shoot through cameras by pressing ENTER.

6751105327dc2Enchantermon

Re: System Shock runs natively on Windows (no music)
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You'll also notice you can shoot through cameras by pressing ENTER.
That's not a bug, that's a feature! ;)

67511053280fbgaspalorz

Re: System Shock runs natively on Windows (no music)
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This happens in vanilla SS in DOSBOX as well. You'll also notice you can shoot through cameras by pressing ENTER.
While it is true that you can shoot in vanilla by pressing return key, "camera panning" is still forbidden - clicking on look up/down control cancels the screen view.
Re: System Shock runs natively on Windows (no music)
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I guess vanilla SS wasn't the right term, but it still happens with the mouselook mod. I guess in this case it's clear that it isn't intended.

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