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673f537936164Primitive Primeape

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Make merge, not deconflict.
All we need is love.

673f5379363cdvoodoo47

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as long as there are proper mtl files for all the texture sets in both mods, it should be just a matter of setting the mod priority in your preferred mod manager.
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It depends of the override order you use in NewDark really (I don't know if they really "conflict", it's not like one is going to mess with the other in an ugly way). But-- I don't mind removing the screens from 400 entirely (I'm not exactly eager to remake them all especially since there's already another mod for that). Most user will install every graphic mod they can at once anyway -- just write the mtl files for the terrain on your side...

Also, there are two models I'm currently messing with: drop00.tga (in bitmap/txt16) and scan (in obj/tex16)... I might as well remove these two (feel free to take these files if you want them).

All in all, I might as well tidy 400 a bit (rename some files and make sure there are no useless things bloating the archive).

673f5379366b7Primitive Primeape

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Will you fix/make better glass panes in the future?
« Last Edit: 22. May 2014, 13:15:13 by Primitive Primeape »
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Will you fix/make better glass planes in the future?
The big blue glass windows? I know I also replaced one glass texture (wasn't supposed to release that, my mistake), but that's a model (so it's for SHTUP). Hint: if you point at something in the game and it shows a description of said thing, it's not part of the terrain...

673f537936caavoodoo47

Re: SS2 Four Hundred
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yeah, the next version of SHTUP will take care of windows.

673f537936dc5Primitive Primeape

Re: SS2 Four Hundred
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Ah, understood ACC.
Sounds great, Voodoo.
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Great to see you're still on this ACC!
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673f537937026Primitive Primeape

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Man, I love it!

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Thanks for your commitment to this project, ACC! Much appreciated.

And ZylonBane, we are keeping our fingers crossed for SHTUP-ND of course! ;)
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673f53793748fSystem Shocked

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Suddenly, out of nowhere, update 16.

I'd given up hope of another release. Many thanks for your ongoing dedication to this project. Keep up the superlative work. It's greatly appreciated.
« Last Edit: 24. May 2014, 18:16:29 by System Shocked »
Acknowledged by: ACC
Re: SS2 Four Hundred
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I was thinking about the "conflict issue" and noticed something embarrassing: the maintenance elevators in Engineering use "flt_3/yellow" and "eng_2/f_grid2" (well, not those EXACT files, but they are the same graphics). I never really payed attention to the models, but I suspect it's not the only model doing this. Unless you have a plan for the shared textures SHTUP and 400 **WILL** conflict eventually.

673f537937733voodoo47

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small stuff can be sorted out, so don't worry about that. anyway, still no love for ert_1/ert024? would love to see the earth map in full new jacket.
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673f53793780aPrimitive Primeape

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What group does the annelid pools belong to?

673f537937986voodoo47

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pools? maybe you mean piles (of disgusting worms)? those are objects, and according to vurt, the (animated) textures are a pita to recreate. but I do agree that an update of those is badly needed, they really cut into the overall visual fidelity when you run the game with all the new fancy stuff enabled, so I certainly wouldn't mind ACC having a look. same goes for those rotating OSA/Navy/Marine logos on Earth.
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Well, the rotating logos is something I could do in Blender.
Are there any higher resolutions available of the emblems they have on them?

673f537937e87voodoo47

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I don't think so. that's probably the reason why no one has attempted to make hires logos in the past - you would have to redo them from scratch.

673f537938041ZylonBane

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Yeah, high-res versions of the military branch logos are something that's been floating around my to-do list for years. The problem is that the logos are three-dimensional. Not just the spinning discs, but the actual logos themselves appear to be embossed.

673f53793812dPrimitive Primeape

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Yes Voodoo, I meant piles. Not pools, what was I thinking... :p

673f5379382d7voodoo47

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hey ACC, the Shodan reveal level is using a bunch of special objects as fake walls, and as they are using their own copies of the world textures which are placed in obj/txt16, they will still be lowres even when the 400 mod is installed. to fix this, copy/rename the following textures into obj/txt16;

BlackOps01.png -> OPS006.png
BlackOps02.png -> OPS007.png
Base3.png -> OPS010.png

for the sake of consistency, I strongly recommend that you make this a permanent part of your mod (even though they are obj textures, they should be a part of the 400 mod, as they are representing wall textures, and are, after all, your work). I'm attaching the extra textures to this post for the time being (extract to your DataPermMods, DataTempMods, or AccFam_16 folder).
Acknowledged by: Primitive Primeape

673f53793841aZylonBane

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The Council of SHTUP agrees.

There's also the fake wall objects used by the Kool-Aid bot on rec deck.

673f537938559voodoo47

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yeah, following textures need to be copied to obj/txt16;

slatmar.png
arbor03.png (updated version does not exist yet)

attaching the one existing texture (extract to your DataPermMods, DataTempMods, or AccFam_16 folder).

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673f5379387e0voodoo47

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not really, as it's only the lower part of the (obj) texture, which will still look off-place as on the orig map, the texture offsets are not exactly optimal at that place. will be much better with SCP (was hammering on that place for quite a while to make it look and work better).

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