Curious how the SCP is coming along!

[6736df9da2dfbZylonBane]

Well how about this-- there's an unused view into space on command2.mis. Just move two brushes by a single unit, and... tadah:

(Hmm, it appears this forum software doesn't automatically constrain the width of large images. And Imgur doesn't provide link thumbnails. Oh well. //v47: fix'd. you just need to construct it manually)

Anyway, there's a surprising amount of unused architecture like this present in the levels. So far we haven't restored any, but I gotta say, this one is tempting.

[6736df9da2f6eDizzy]

Honestly that looks amazing, I understand the temptation! Don't be afraid to indulge in those temptations a little bit!   

[6736df9da3099ZylonBane]

Pfft, that's nothing.  You should see what they hid behind a wall in the training space station shuttle bay.

[6736df9da3382Marvin]

If the number of those architectural changes is fairly small (~20-30) you could post screenshots and let the community vote.

If it looks good and makes sense, why not. It's in the game files anyway.

[6736df9da376cunn_atropos]

Pfft, that's nothing.  You should see what they hid behind a wall in the training space station shuttle bay.

Yeah, I included this in my blueprint. Awesome details.
I also like that the other nacelles on the rick maps are also there, but inaccessible. Though there is this video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jnNOPK3UOJI
Is it a mod?

[6736df9da38f0voodoo47]

most definitely. there are quite a few unfinished rooms around the Rickenbacker - however, they are a bit too unfinished to determine what did LGS intend to do with them, so trying to restore them would be too much of a guess work.

[6736df9da39e8Tricky]

Wow. Excuse my jawbone detaching itself.. I had no idea any of that was there. Or that you can destroy a bunch of pipes like that. 

[6736df9da3ad0voodoo47]

all of that stuff you see being destroyed/fixed/used is custom made, and not present in the orig map.

[6736df9da3b9eTricky]

Ah. I knew that.

[6736df9da3c77Dizzy]

Don't be afraid to "accidentally" restore these extra areas!

[6736df9da3db5voodoo47]

such heavy reconstruction works are currently out of scope.

[6736df9da3e92Dizzy]

Yeah understandable, just do us a solid and release a great patch!   

[6736df9da3fcbHikari]

There any info on what's hidden behind the walls in the training stations?

And can any of that get restored?

[6736df9da4100voodoo47]

yes it can. but should it? remember, the more changes we introduce, the bigger the backlash from the purist crowd (check "I want my shotgun slug back!" on the first page of this topic). anyway, as the area is small and 90% finished, you might actually get this one (earth and station are technically not part of the game, so the "bugfix only" rule has not been applied as thoroughly here), but don't quote me on that.

[6736df9da41e3Dizzy]

I think a game-wide massive restoration project should be left for a separate mod.

But that's just my 2 cents.   

[6736df9da42f7Tricky]

If you would add all the levels (including all the windows ports into outer space) into one, single map, like they did for Half Life a while back, would the resulting Von Braun make any physical sense?

[6736df9da43dbDizzy]

That would be kind of neat actually, but would take years of work. And on top of that, I do not think it would make much sense.

[6736df9da44cdTricky]

I have a feeling the editor would burn a hole through a computer before being able to load that map. 

[6736df9da4840voodoo47]

If you would add all the levels (including all the windows ports into outer space) into one, single map, like they did for Half Life a while back, would the resulting Von Braun make any physical sense?

no. that's why I've said that it's futile to use too much logic when fixing things a couple of posts ago. although (after a thorough look) I'll have to agree that something needs to be done about that robot bustout area on rec2.

looking at the area (mess hall), I think at some point the room behind the robot was supposed to represent the place where the actual food was supposed to be given out, school canteen style. no idea why it got used as a weird koolaid event spot in the end.

[6736df9da4a00voodoo47]

ok, lets try something new - get the rec2 mess hall area testmap from the attachment and let me know what do you think about the modifications. the bot will leave you alone, and the camera is unable to raise the alarm.

throw the map into your datapermmods or datatempmods folder, edit your cam.cfg, add first_level rec2.mis, save and exit, and start a new game.


//note: both the room where the bot is and the unreachable room behind it have been slightly expanded, and a broken door that connects the bot room with the mess hall has been added. the unreachable room behind the bot has been retextured into a small kitchen, and a kitchen sink and a stove have been added. also, a fake door can now be seen when one leans into the room. I believe this is as good as it gets with as few modifications as possible.

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[6736df9da4af0Dizzy]

Not bad, I like it actually. Maybe a couple extra dummy props are in order, but other than that it looks great!

Keep up the great work guys!

[6736df9da4bd1voodoo47]

yeah, peas and cornflakes, the VB favorite menu, is prepared to be scattered around.

[6736df9da4d21ZylonBane]

I'm not sure I even want to know what a "dummy prop" is. A dummy that's not actually a dummy? A prop that's not actually a prop?

[6736df9da4e22voodoo47]

he just means more junk needs to be lying around.