SS2 list of broken and lowpoly objects that need fixing

[6736814cf14dcOlfred]

Good thing I asked you guys and didn't tried to fix this on my own.
Saved me hours of yelling "why?! why won't you work you fucking piece of shit?!?!"

[6736814cf1814voodoo47]

yeah, if things are weirding out for no apparent reason, always ask first. saves rivers of bloody tears.

Did you compare flower.bin to the old model? If the new one is floaty the old one would be floaty as well.

floored the old model, swapped with the new model, and could floor again and the new model went down by 0.03 units.

[6736814cf1946Olfred]

I think flooring the new models isn't such a reliable way anymore.

Also about the conduit parts. I think we need to use the untinkered ones (which were going into the ground) and change their physical dimensions.
I whacked a conduit and some parts were falling on to the other side and then sunk in the ground.

[6736814cf1a44voodoo47]

this would make them SCP exclusive, as physdims are one of the few props that cannot be dml modified. any chance of making the models more flat so they would match the orig dimensions? in an ideal world, all replacement models should be 1:1.

[6736814cf1b62Olfred]

Well, the orignal models don't represent the conduit in any way. So to make them the same size than the old models would be sort of hard to do. Or they need to be tinkered down to a degree they don't show much of being conduit parts anymore.
I would say being SCP exclusive is good enough as this all is mainly for being included in the SCP.
At least I thought it would be like that.

[6736814cf1e6cZylonBane]

this would make them SCP exclusive, as physdoms are one of the few props that cannot be dml modified.

Conduit parts don't exist in the world, they're spawned. Modifying the physdims of their archetypes should work fine. Actually, I don't know for a fact that they even have any physdims set. They might be set automatically. In that case, I could manually force them to be the same as for the original models.

[6736814cf1f7eOlfred]

Did I miss out on some file again?

For me something like this happens when they fall on their "top"

[6736814cf227fOlfred]

floored the old model, swapped with the new model, and could floor again and the new model went down by 0.03 units.

Repeatedly pressing the "Floor Me" button will change the orientation a tiny bit, even if the model stays the same. Maybe that's what happened.

Also worked on plantt.bin and I must say, it doesn't represent the old model in any way.

EDIT: If anyone can tell me what kind of plant the original one is supposed to be I might try to recreate a higher res model.

EDIT:
planth, wonky alpha thing again, also needs the v_chains.png (it comes from the blend files vurt send me)

[6736814cf2553ZylonBane]

Did I miss out on some file again?

For me something like this happens when they fall on their "top"

Fixed in gamesys by modifying the physics params so the conduit parts are only allowed to come to rest the "correct" way up.

[6736814cf264fOlfred]

I see
no wonder I am missing it out.

[6736814cf2755voodoo47]

will add the fix into the standalone fixed model pack via dml.


//all the fixed vurt flora stuff has been hammered into a new release and put online.

//looking at rec2, a hanging plant model without the chains will also be required, probably.

[6736814cf2844Olfred]

This is not the previous planth.bin just without the chains. I moved and scaled it a bit to better fit the old position.

[6736814cf295bvoodoo47]

thanks. now I need to run around the game in my head, find all the places where the plants need to be chainless and dml them. vurt's flora 1.0d some time later today.

[6736814cf2a3eOlfred]

Or you just ditch the chained model.

[6736814cf2b0evoodoo47]

naah, dml'd rec2 and everything is good.

[6736814cf2be9Olfred]

Oh, ok.
Just out ouf curiosity. Do you guys even use something for managing all the stuff?

[6736814cf2cc6voodoo47]

heads, mostly. forum for the rest.

[6736814cf2dd4Olfred]

Thought so.
I used to be work like that as well. But once you start managing bigger projects it becomes so much easier.
And the "time wasted" on managing will save you so much more time later on.
You should test it out, maybe after the beta1 release.

[6736814cf2eb5voodoo47]

I'm thinking we should set up some simple bugtracker for beta1, we will want to collect user bugreports in some sane way.

[6736814cf304cOlfred]

Well, when it comes to bugtracking I only worked with Trac and Mantis. Can't say that I prefer one over the other, they both work quite well and only have slight differences between them. (Mostly the backend they run on, Trac is Python whereas Mantis is PHP).

When it comes to Project Management I had the best (free) experience with Redmine (which runs with Ruby on rails).
You can make gantt diagrams!! 

But also working with other "tools" might be quite useful.
Like an excel sheet with a list of all objects which are placed in every level so you can quickly check that up without opening all the levels.

[6736814cf3153ZylonBane]

Here's a version of the wedge wall light (-978) modified so the "light" surface is full white, instead of the dull grey in the default model. Now it matches all the other white light models.
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[6736814cf33f3System Shocked]

Here's a version of the wedge wall light (-978) modified so the "light" surface is full white, instead of the dull grey in the default model. Now it matches all the other white light models.

Is it possible to post "before and after" pictures of the changes to this light? I'm curious to see the difference.

[6736814cf34f9ZylonBane]

It's exactly the same but with a white light surface instead of grey.

If that doesn't satisfy your curiosity, it'd take you like 60 seconds to download it and try it.

[6736814cf35e9voodoo47]

the eng yellowish wedge lights (and also some hanging lights) also have this problem - way too dull for being lit up.