SS2 list of broken and lowpoly objects that need fixing

[67b50d482bc38ZylonBane]

The yellow wedge lights don't bother me, since the light from them actually is pretty dim. The yellow hanging lights do though, because they're transparent (unlike their white versions).

[67b50d482bfb3System Shocked]

It's exactly the same but with a white light surface instead of grey.

If that doesn't satisfy your curiosity, it'd take you like 60 seconds to download it and try it.

I'm a noob (except for the downloading part). How would I be able to do that?

[67b50d482c265System Shocked]

The yellow wedge lights don't bother me, since the light from them actually is pretty dim. The yellow hanging lights do though, because they're transparent (unlike their white versions).

For consistency, shouldn't all same model/type lights have the same attributes, appearance/lighting characteristics wise?

[67b50d482c3f5voodoo47]

by downloading the attachment and dropping it into DataPermMods, DataTempMods, or any mod folder under obj.

[67b50d482c4fdSystem Shocked]

I thought these new .bin files were being posted because Olfred had to rework them in some way in order to fix a problem.

Thanks, much obliged.

[67b50d482c7c8Olfred]

No, sometimes ZylonBane fixes minor things himself. Not everything is a request. 

[67b50d482c91avoodoo47]

was playing with the latest conduit parts (from v08), and while they seem to work reasonably well after the dml fix, I still think a 1:1 replacement would be preferable.

[67b50d482ca18Olfred]

1:1 is not viable because the original model is just too small.
And it was bugging out on the physdim already anyway.

[67b50d482cd21voodoo47]

Here's a version of the wedge wall light (-978) modified so the "light" surface is full white, instead of the dull grey in the default model. Now it matches all the other white light models.

unless I'm mistaken, you have used the old, unfixed model with missing back side. the fixed one is here.

also, attaching three SHTUP models that need the same treatment as their orig equivalents - lights missing back sides, bulk switch the same.

[67b50d482ce77ZylonBane]

Oops, yeah, I did. Probably best to make the change properly in Blender than to run the upgraded model through bintoe/bsp.

[67b50d482cf62voodoo47]

well then, Olfred, would you kindly.

[67b50d482d04cOlfred]

What's so special about the SHTUP models that they can't use the original ones?

[67b50d482d14fvoodoo47]

SHTUP enhances some of the obj textures, and the modified models are required to load them properly. for example, the orig wedge light has only a single color glass, while the SHTUP model uses a full texture.

[67b50d482d239ZylonBane]

The original wedge light uses a texture. It's just a solid-colored one.

[67b50d482d347Olfred]

Here are the light models.

I didn't saw any difference on the shtup bulkdown so I left it out.

[67b50d482d5eevoodoo47]

difference on the shtup bulkdown

no idea what difference between the orig and SHTUP bulkdown is, ZB would have to answer that.

[67b50d482d733ZylonBane]

Hey Olfred, if you have some spare time, could you run a 16 x 16 surface subdivision on these models? It's just a couple of one-sided flats that I'd like to improve the lighting on. I know we tried this before with the teeth, but these objects don't move, and the exporter has gotten a lot better since then, so I figure it's worth another shot.

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[67b50d482d83aOlfred]

I also exported a new gizzard some while ago.
Did you ever tested that out?

[67b50d482da08ZylonBane]

Just tried the updated gizzard. Still looks weird. I wouldn't worry about that one anymore, it's basically the worst-case scenario for this sort of thing-- an all-white object, in motion, with a bright light very close to its surface.

The QBR walls, on the other hand, are nearly a best-case scenario-- stationary objects, with dim light distant from the surface. Check it out:

The lighting is nearly indistinguishable from a lightmapped terrain surface. It even looks good when you go inside and look around. The visual artifact when shaded polygons cross a screen edge isn't noticeable at all, due to the minimal brightness changes across the surface.

So, success! 

[67b50d482db03Olfred]

Sadly it's still lighted a tad differently.
Like a blueish tint.

[67b50d482dbe5ZylonBane]

The last shot is from a different map.

[67b50d482dcdaOlfred]

Yeah, I know.
I was referring to the fact that you can clearly see that objects are lighted differently.

[67b50d482ddf6ZylonBane]

If you're just comparing the two object screenshots, then I'm not sure what you're lamenting. There's some blue on the back wall in both shots. That's because there's a blue light shining into the QBR booth.

[67b50d482df55Olfred]

I'm comparing the object with the brush wall.