SS2 TF's Secmod 3

[66f902978c4ddvoodoo47]

not really a texture guy, but yeah, non-power of two textures are better off gone. Shocked should display the offending stuff when loading the map(s).

it would also be nice to get rid of the broken objects that don't work with SHTUP-ND (I was digging around a bit and seem like Secmod includes a bunch of vanilla objects for no apparent reason, and that they have been modified in some inappropriate way that breaks the hires textures) - I think just merging in the fixed objects pack into Secmod (and overwriting) should do the trick (SCP does this as well). //no, this will not help, as some of those objects are not in the fixed objects pack.

[66f902978c791ThiefsieFool]

Fixed those textures, get this attachment and put them in mesh/txt16, let me know if this removes the crashes and also if the smartgun's texture still looks alright with these changes

removed attachment, get latest secmod for updated textures

[66f902978c881Unicron]

That did it!  Thank you so much!  I can't thank you enough!

[66f902978c9b8ZylonBane]

BMPs? Aaaaagggghhhhh......

[66f902978cb04Kolya]

24bit PNGs
If these work as well, I'll gladly add them to the mod.

[66f902978cc73Nameless Voice]

I'm just going to point out that the 24-bit PNG zip is much bigger.

[66f902978cd59Kolya]

I know. That's why I expressly said it's 24 bits PNGs. Possibly 8bit PNGs would be enough.

[66f902978ce45ThiefsieFool]

They're 621k compared to 1.2m for bitmaps so it is an improvement, a higher concern right now is if the new resized textures look distorted or not in-game, haven't been able to check that yet

[66f902978cf34Pych]

Coll mod good work. But i have 1 problem. My game crash all time when i go under the water in the new map. I can go only 1 time under the water. If i go a 2nd time, crash all time.. Any idea please ?

[66f902978d058ThiefsieFool]

Do you see an oxygen meter when going in the water? Maybe you don't have the latest Newdark installed.

[66f902978d151ThiefsieFool]

version 3.16 is up, smartgun has fixed PNG textures now, fixing the crash bug on Rec, I've also disabled the flamethrower's muzzle flame since it can crash on the latest Newdark sometimes

[66f902978d3b0voodoo47]

Any idea please ?

posting your shock2.log and crash.dmp (both in your SS2 folder, zip them up, upload to some online storage and post the link) would be a good start.

[66f902978d58evoodoo47]

argh, knew I forgot something - TF, I know that you also do a bunch of shenanigans with the shotgun hybrid so its shotgun would get properly  removed once the player loots it, so you'll probably want to grab the fixed model that makes this look less buggy.

you also should nab the good stuff from SCP, like the shotgun/shotgun hybrid muzzle flashes (if you haven't already - I have to admit that I didn't check the last few Secmod versions).


//had a quick look, and you already have muzzle flashes, but not the fixed hybrid model. also, I would really, really recommend relighting the levels into 32bit. also, one completely optional thing - consider adding the (SCP/vanilla SS2tool patched) gamesys dml stubs, so that dml stub mods would be Secmod compatible.


//the transparent (SHTUP-ND) sign problem is still there (removing Secmod tram.bin fixes it. also, the sneaky evil thing here is that you need to go into the game mode to actually see the issue).
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[66f902978d671voodoo47]

also, is the hydro2 map correct? seems to be just a clone of hydro1.

[66f902978d7bcThiefsieFool]

- does removing the tram.bin fix the thing where you can't see objects from inside the tram, or is it something else? that's what I would most hope is fixable, not sure what that window floating in mid-air is
- with regards to relighting, I would, I'm just not sure if there are levels where relying on reconstruct_lights changes the lighting too much (most secmod levels are stripped)
- hydro2 is not used, secmod used shydro2.mis and sshodan.mis since forever to prevent .DIF files from altering the levels

[66f902978e483Pych]

Do you see an oxygen meter when going in the water? Maybe you don't have the latest Newdark installed.

No i will try it ! Thank you for your quick answers

[66f902978eaf4voodoo47]

- does removing the tram.bin fix the thing where you can't see objects from inside the tram, or is it something else? that's what I would most hope is fixable, not sure what that window floating in mid-air is

eh, should have circled the problem red. it's not about the tram, it's about the tram sign (its model name is tram.bin), I'm pointing my crosshair on it. Secmod includes a modified model of it, which (as mentioned by ZB) has been edited in a way that slightly breaks it, and it will show as a disappearing bluish slab if SHTUP-ND is loaded. I know about three sign textures that display this behavior, and there is probably more. would recommend kicking all unnecessary object models out of Secmod (unless the model edit is something that is needed for Secmod to work properly).

- with regards to relighting, I would, I'm just not sure if there are levels where relying on reconstruct_lights changes the lighting too much (most secmod levels are stripped)

I wouldn't be too afraid - the benefits should outweigh the potential risk of the lighting not looking 100% correct at a few places.

- hydro2 is not used, secmod used shydro2.mis and sshodan.mis since forever to prevent .DIF files from altering the levels

I see. this means that the standard SS2tool fixup dmls will not get applied, but that's not a big deal.

[66f902978ec29Unicron]

Can someone help me with a segment of the actual game? 

I'm at recreation and I just don't know what to do.  I can't advance any further.  I got to the center elevator in the big room but there's no way to open the door.

[66f902978ed2fThiefsieFool]

You just need to activate the transmitter with the code you get from looking at wall art

[66f902978ee4aZylonBane]

So you looked at the notes and there were no pending goals?

[66f902978ef81Unicron]

I did, but it just says to find the transmitter.  I don't even know where to begin to look.

[66f902978f095ThiefsieFool]

It's in the basketball court in Athletics, there should be at least one audio log to mention this, kind of a flimsy connection but I'll take it over "Now would you kindly head on over to the basketball court, ..."

[66f902978f24dcode371]

I faced with some issue.. When the hybrid runs at you and you move backward - He doesn't attack you until you stops, very annoying! When i deactivate Secmod to compare it with the original game, i found that hybrids do about the same, but after some seconds they trying to walked around the side to attack you, so it doesn't metter if you stops or not when moving backward, they 100% trying to attack you during running at you. Is there any way to fix their behavior in secmod? It's just not interesting to play, becouse they do not present any danger to you(((

I also figure out that AlyaMod 2 doesnt have this issue.

[66f902978f35fcode371]

I made a video, to clarify the problem, watch it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kv4k7D_IKHI