SCP Beta 2 Issue Reporting

[6743f7eaef07cYankee Clipper]

Plus, on top of everything else, movable or not, the stools are too tall (or the bar too short). If someone did sit on one of those stools, their knees would be even with the top of the bar.

Unless... It is the future, so maybe the stools sink deeper into the floor when you sit on them.

[6743f7eaef21bSystem Shocked]

Hay!, Yankey Klippur, how 'bout we jus stand a' the barr  .  .  .  it's saffer  .  .  .  .  .  I'll buye d' fust wround.

[6743f7eaef33bCFW Magic]

Disregard this. I pretty much f'd my game over myself. That's what you get for messing with ShockED at 7 in the morning.

[6743f7eaef427System Shocked]

.  .  .  .  .  were you sober? If not, that's another problem altogether.

[6743f7eaef8c7System Shocked]

While madly runnin' and jumpin' about in Dr. Polito's office (for a short time, there was a rambunctious monkey with me) http://i.imgur.com/r5Rkr3M.jpg , I discovered some oddities during and after Shodan's grande intro cutscene. With all that happens in this area, I'm sure its design is complex, so some of the following may not be fixable. Given the opportunity, I've also added a couple of basic and believable lighting design suggestions for the area. Nothing too complicated, just realistic:

1. This is Dr. Polito's immediate area showing her pistol and computer pad http://i.imgur.com/5tCmjfx.jpg . During Shodan's cutscene, her pistol is visible, but her computer pad becomes virtually invisible http://i.imgur.com/N5Mvd9D.jpg and http://i.imgur.com/wDhh57W.jpg . Suggest placing it on her desk (where it really should be) in order to hopefully maintain it's visibility throughout the cutscene. //no, intentional
2. Concerning this computer console and this end of the room http://i.imgur.com/HAWHZ2U.jpg
a) The computer console is not mountable - no screenshot. //no issue
b) This corner is accessible http://i.imgur.com/F0EjNrq.jpg and http://i.imgur.com/Z2JqKBO.jpg but not the opposite corner http://i.imgur.com/pClQYJV.jpg //no issue
c) There's an invisible object here http://i.imgur.com/JjexjDA.jpg that's mountable http://i.imgur.com/zYLXYDm.jpg //noted
3. Concerning this other computer console and this end of the room http://i.imgur.com/cwBUiE2.jpg
a) Neither corners on either side of it are accessible - no screenshots. //no issue
b) The computer console is widely mountable to the left, even way over here http://i.imgur.com/PNMpdy5.jpg //no issue
c) There's an invisible object here http://i.imgur.com/BzEHwST.jpg that's widely mountable http://i.imgur.com/EcJCTLl.jpg //noted
4. As reported previously by Yankee Clipper, long after Shodan's cutscene ends, I fired a grenade partially down the hallway and an invisible egg exploded http://i.imgur.com/N3MtPoH.jpg //noted, but mostly "don't do that"
5. The area's ONLY light must have a 5000 watt lightbulb - it illuminates the entire area. Dim the existing light and install two new lights http://i.imgur.com/QJprIqG.jpg and add a defective light in the long hallway http://i.imgur.com/LkoUoWl.jpg //no

As usual SCP Devs, keep the faith and do what you can, where you can. 

[6743f7eaefac3voodoo47]

considering the very special nature of this level, pretty much everything (with the exception of the destroyable egg maybe, though why would one want to fire the grenade launcher there still remains a question) would fall somewhere between "don't do that" and "dude, just really f*cking don't do that".

[6743f7eaefdcaOlfred]

5. Dude, why is everything so fucking bright for you? Did you crank up some illumination setting, or gamma or whatever?

Take a look at the attached screenshot, this is how it looks for me.
There is only a single light in there to set the focus on the dead body and to generally set a specific mood to the room. Adding more lights is one of the shittest suggestions you ever made as it clearly would destroy this.

[6743f7eaeffb9System Shocked]

Dude,
My original screenshot is exactly the same as yours. Due to how dark screenshots typically are, as evidenced by submissions from others, I use an editor to brighten them up as a benefit for the Devs so they can clearly understand the issue(s) at hand.

Concerning the lights, I get the lighting mood aspect, but the area is too large to have just one light. As a rethink, adding defective lights (as I suggested for the long hallway) wouldn't change the lighting mood, but would make more design sense.   

[6743f7eaf0281System Shocked]

considering the very special nature of this level, pretty much everything (with the exception of the destroyable egg maybe, though why would one want to fire the grenade launcher there still remains a question) would fall somewhere between "don't do that" and "dude, just really f*cking don't do that".

Concerning the invisible destroyable egg, it was to support Yankee Clipper's previous feedback submission, of it occurring.

[6743f7eaf0900Olfred]

So at one hand you are saying

The area's ONLY light must have a 5000 watt lightbulb - it illuminates the entire area.

and on the other you say

Due to how dark screenshots typically are, [...] I use an editor to brighten them up as a benefit for the Devs so they can clearly understand the issue(s) at hand.

Even though an installation like that might not be the optimal solution to light a whole room, it isn't something unrealistic.
I don't have any say in this, but in my opinion that is not an issue.

P.S. And you don't need a 5000W bulb to light the whole room. With the right setup you can light the whole room (except the entrance area) with merely 20W. And yeah, everything coming from one center stop.

[6743f7eaf0a29System Shocked]

When I've suggested adding lights in my feedback reports, it's almost always been for defective ones, in order to not disturb the existing lighting mood but to maintain and/or improve design aesthetics, especially for rooms that haven't any lights.   

[6743f7eaf0b4cSystem Shocked]

If there are three eggs in the same room, does each one emit its own murmuring sound while it's intact?

On Ops deck, I've entered a room with three eggs and the murmuring sound is present. When I destroyed the first egg, the murmuring sound stopped. Neither of the two remaining eggs emit any sounds. Wondering if this is normal, or a bug.

[6743f7eaf0c3bvoodoo47]

an egg missing its sound is definitely a bug. specify location.

[6743f7eaf0f12System Shocked]

an egg missing its sound is definitely a bug. specify location.

There are three instances so far, all on the Operations Deck. Oddly, I'm pretty sure that I reported these way back when.

http://i.imgur.com/qnjQlbr.jpg     and     http://i.imgur.com/cI2Ln3x.jpg     and     http://i.imgur.com/ktwPEMD.jpg

[6743f7eaf101bvoodoo47]

also one thing - before you take a screenshot, open the console by hitting shift+; and type show_stats and hit enter.

[6743f7eaf1122System Shocked]

Will gladly do this going forward , but I've got a whack of screenshots taken already in preparation for my feedback reports for SCP Beta 2, and they unfortunately won't have the player's map position data displayed on them. So very sorry.

[6743f7eaf1224Yankee Clipper]

Speaking of eggs, all of the eggs up in the officers' quarters on command will not trigger unless you actually kiss them.

[6743f7eaf1355System Shocked]

@ Yankee Clipper,

IIRC, some of the eggs in that area also don't emit murmuring sounds either. I'll double check when I get there.

[6743f7eaf1461voodoo47]

the egg trigger wonkiness has been left alone intentionally. so that regular players will not know which egg is relatively safe to search and which one will blow right into their face.

[6743f7eaf1585Yankee Clipper]

I get what you are saying about the egg triggers being variable. Some will trip before you can search them, some won't. But, all of these are set so that you can get way closer than necessary to search them. You can get close enough to all of them to hit them with your wrench without triggering them. And if you don't hit them, you can get even closer still. Seems off, but if you guys think the game works better that way, so be it.

[6743f7eaf1853unn_atropos]

It would be interesting to have a mod that gives you information about the egg. You gather some inplant thats tells you what will hatch out and puts the useless organs to some use (swarm organ as a healing item f.e., or they join your side.)
It would also be cool to be able to cook new kinds of hybrids up by mixing organs in the egg.

[6743f7eaf19aaYankee Clipper]

Well, you could do a mod that makes the eggs have a different appearance depending on what kind of egg they are, but I think part of the point is you don't know what you are dealing with until you are close enough to either search it or have it crack open and attack you. Making the useless organs recyclable should be easily enough, though. Not just for the egg organs, but all the monster organs.

I don't get what you are saying about mixing the organs to male new hybrids, though. I'm trying to kill the bastards, not cook up new ones who will just try to kill me the moment they are created.

[6743f7eaf1b46System Shocked]

Found another egg that's giving the silent treatment - emits no murmuring sound   http://i.imgur.com/0DoaW5x.jpg

EDITED :

Here's another at the pool http://i.imgur.com/vbyIoxW.jpg and it also floats above the floor http://i.imgur.com/dclgn34.jpg

[6743f7eaf1c8aSystem Shocked]

SCP Beta 1 and SCP Beta 2 were released on subsequent Halloweens. Is this the timetable that will be followed for future SCP releases? Between major SCP releases, will interim patches be made available, in order to provide gameplay/visual improvements without having to wait for the lengthy/yearly SCP Halloween releases? I assume that you SCP Devs are working on secret unmentionable improvements. Let me suggest that fundamental basic corrections, by way of the SS2's community feedback reports, be made available through SCP Beta 2 incremental patches, instead of waiting for the yearlong updates.