SCP Beta 2 Issue Reporting

[674081276a969System Shocked]

4a is due to a hack I did. The hack has higher priority than the spinning object being centered.

That's great Olfred. So how do I incorporate your fix into my current install of SS2?

[674081276ab3cvoodoo47]

by installing the fixed objects?

[674081276b442ZylonBane]

non-effectual/inconsequential
requirement/status
indicate/support
appearance/details

You need to knock that shit off. Talk like a human, not a thesaurus. You impress nobody when you do that.

here are some MAJOR additional feedback issues
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2. How about removing this upper non-effectual/inconsequential railing, to save resources

Are you fucking kidding me? Earth is one of the smallest maps in the game, and you're blathering about saving resources? By deleting ONE OBJECT? Just because YOU don't think it needs to be there? And you apparently consider this a MAJOR change? Good god.

5. The inner/upper observation windows in shuttle bays 1 & 2, shown here should be indestructible

No they shouldn't, all feedback like this can fuck off.

[674081276b7f7ZylonBane]

- This is something I noticed when testing the subtitles: EM801, 507, 808, and 809 subtitles in BOTM show up twice (except for 809, where only the first line "We die" is shown twice). I first assumed that my subtitles were wrong...

Your subtitles are wrong. All emails should have the singleton tag on them.

[674081276be02System Shocked]

You need to knock that shit off. Talk like a human, not a thesaurus. You impress nobody when you do that.

I'm not trying to impress anybody. I prefer to post my messages in the manner that I like, not in a manner that YOU like.

Are you fucking kidding me? Earth is one of the smallest maps in the game, and you're blathering about saving resources? By deleting ONE OBJECT? Just because YOU don't think it needs to be there? And you apparently consider this a MAJOR change? Good god.

How would I know that? What about removing it because a portional railing way up there looks really odd. Yeah, it's not a MAJOR issue, but it STILL looks stupid.

No they shouldn't, all feedback like this can fuck off.

Design and safety wise, the windows in shuttle bays 1 and 2 shouldn't be breakable, in the event that their forcefields fail.
Game consistency wise, the similar windows in Engineering's larger shuttle bay are NOT breakable.
Don't readily avoid giving a fu@k about feedback that has precedence and makes sense. Are you capable of doing that?

[674081276c285Marvin]

Your subtitles are wrong. All emails should have the singleton tag on them.

Oh, that's interesting. Newdark doc says:

This flag should only be used in rare cases, for example if some sounds are played through a PA system, where the game will start playing the sound in multiple locations simultaneously. Normally this flag shouldn't be specified.

What's a PA system? Probably related to that: Why is it needed in BotM but not on Rec?

[674081276c553ZylonBane]

What's a PA system? Probably related to that: Why is it needed in BotM but not on Rec?

Here, let me Google that for you.

Every email you receive in the game is manually scripted to also play out loud the moment it's received. Apparently sometimes they messed up and had multiple objects scripted to play a single email. Adding the singleton tag fixes this. There's no reason not to just add it to all emails, because preventing the same audio file from being subtitled more than once at the same time is literally all it does. Where it's not needed it doesn't hurt anything by being there.

[674081276c63dMarvin]

So what you're saying is that it's also a bug in the game. Which should probably be fixed.

[674081276c779ZylonBane]

No shit. But if you want your subtitles to be compatible with the base game, you'll have to use the singleton tag.

[674081276c85fMarvin]

"Your subtitles are wrong" is a false statement, that's all I'm saying.

But yeah, I'll definitely include it.

[674081276ca89System Shocked]

by installing the fixed objects?

As best as I can determine, Olfred fixed another issue with the storage lockers, that resulted in them spinning in a non-central and wide oblong rotation, which means that storage lockers can't rotate in the same central fashion, as other similar objects?

[674081276cb6avoodoo47]

guess you will just have to live with the way the object is set up.

[674081276cce6Da9L]

In an attempt to give some feedback (but also afraid that this goes under the "waste of devs time" line) heres a screenshot of a place on Medical Primal Reserach that i think looks wierd and not right

[674081276ce02ZylonBane]

So, we're supposed to guess what exactly you don't like about that scene?

[674081276cefcvoodoo47]

sharp cut on that brush in the middle. I actually knew about it, but classified it as "screw it, not going to mess with brushes just because of this".

but yeah, a small red circle pinpointing the problem would be ok next time.

[674081276da7eDa9L]

So, we're supposed to guess what exactly you don't like about that scene?

Sorry it isnt obvious to you.. It seems like voodoo with this:

sharp cut on that brush in the middle. I actually knew about it, but classified it as "screw it, not going to mess with brushes just because of this".

but yeah, a small red circle pinpointing the problem would be ok next time.

.. got it..

Its not a big deal really no, the only reason i mentioned it, is because its the only thing i've noticed in my current game and i just got to eng

[674081276ddd5ZylonBane]

Sorry it isnt obvious to you.. It seems like voodoo with this: .. got it..

All that means is that he guessed correctly. Anyone who wants to point something out should be explicit. Just posting a screenshot and saying "Bad!" is the sort of crap System used to do.

[674081276df6bMarvin]

I think it's so obvious, being in the middle of the image and the only mistake, that Da9L didn't feel the need to point it out. If he'd drawn a big red circle and worte an explanation, you'd probably deride him as Captain Obvious right now.

[674081276e12cZylonBane]

Everything you just said is wrong. A significant part of the reason for external testers is to bring in alternative viewpoints. What's obvious to YOU may not be obvious to ME, because YOU are not ME. That's why posting bare screenshots without marking or commentary is bad practice, full stop.  Attempting to argue otherwise is nothing but contrarianism. Which, granted, is pretty much your thing.

[674081276e4a9Marvin]

Everything you just said is wrong. A significant part of the reason for external testers is to bring in alternative viewpoints. What's obvious to YOU may not be obvious to ME, because YOU are not ME. That's why posting bare screenshots without marking or commentary is bad practice, full stop. 

Well, Da9L must have thought along the same lines, so I'm already 50% right. :p
In any case, Mr. Sourpuss, you practically never provide any positive feedback on bug reports, and you clearly don't like System Shocked's super extensive reports, so it becomes really hard to guess how to actually cater to your whims. Which is even more bizarre noticing that voodoo pretty much gets it right away all the time, and without ever throwing a fit.

Attempting to argue otherwise is nothing but contrarianism. Which, granted, is pretty much your thing.

I like how you pretend we'd actually interact with each other regularly enough to warrant such a statement.

[674081276e5e2Da9L]

ZB just stop it. Why are you always so god damn negative? Its like you are on a permanent period or something.

Nonetheless heres another screenshot, with a red circle, so that even you can understand what im refering to.

AND to be clear, theres a hole in the wall between the two rooms. Not a huge deal again, but just pointing it out.

Location shown on map which is also in screenshot

[674081276e6f2voodoo47]

level is stripped. nothing can be done.

[674081276e836Da9L]

I just got to the Command deck. I noticed that iam stil able to get the shuttle access card through the window at the security station of command2. Not sure if you were to fix it, if its even possible or that you just have forgotten. Otherwise i hope you will fix it..

And then the first screenshot.. Thats in one of the Ops crew areas.. Is that a mistake or a joke ? I didnt take note of the location because i first thought it was a joke, but if its a mistake, ill go back and get the location..

[674081276eb8bJML]

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And then the first screenshot.. Thats in one of the Ops crew areas.. Is that a mistake or a joke ? I didnt take note of the location because i first thought it was a joke, but if its a mistake, ill go back and get the location..

Probably a reminder to the marines what they stand for. I would consider it decoration, not tool.