SSR System Shock Remake Feedback Request - Night Dive Studios

[67400008af379ZylonBane]

We don't know what the other four pods are for. They might be mechanical in nature, or otherwise needing segregation but aren't grove-like so have a different designation.

They look exactly like the grove pods. They did then, they do now. They're groves.

[67400008af54dHikari]

Zylon for once in your life can you not be ultra pessimistic and condescending about everything? It's one thing to point out where they fucked up, and having eight pods instead of four is a fuckup so far as we know. However try finding something positive to say for a change that isn't also an inevitable backhanded compliment or outright insult.

[67400008af9b4RocketMan]

And come on! 4 groves Night Dive.  4.

There are times when I honestly think that the person assigned to do task 946 just hasn't played System Shock.

[67400008afaa3ZylonBane]

I'm starting to think Hikari has some sort of self-esteem issues.

[67400008afb83Hikari]

No zylon, I'm just sick of you nutsacking all over everything and everybody for the past decade.

[67400008afc61ZylonBane]

Eww.

[67400008aff28ThiefsieFool]

I can sort of see why they did it, the new groves they added are on the other side that wasn't very visible in the original images
However the 4 groves design is both more accurate to the game and more interesting visually (asymmetry is good especially on a rotating object)

[67400008b005dHikari]

I'm simply hopeful the four other pods see some kind of use otherwise they'd have screwed up again.

Then again how hard would it be to axe the four extras from the existing model? I ask because i know little about modeling beyond it's tedious and you want to recycle/reuse everything possible once made.

[67400008b019bGawain]

I would like to hear System Shocked's comments about the groves.

[67400008b04ecOlfred]

i know little about modeling beyond it's tedious and you want to recycle/reuse everything possible once made.

what?

[67400008b0710ZylonBane]

However the 4 groves design is both more accurate to the game and more interesting visually (asymmetry is good especially on a rotating object)

Eh? Either 4 or 8 groves are both pretty damn symmetric.

[67400008b09e5chickenhead]

I call this work "Influences, a Reflection in Four Parts":

(slow clap)

Well done, mate.

[67400008b0b32ZylonBane]

Night Dive just posted some more SS pics on their Facebook page, and hey how about this:

Much better. No more silly purple laser, actual realistic use of light colors (red for navigation hazards, white for internal light sources).

[67400008b0c33RocketMan]

... and 8 groves

[67400008b0d45Hikari]

Oh that is definately a lot better.

If you're readin thread and all. Thanks.

Edit: What are those four long pod things at the lower part of the station?

[67400008b0ebdJoin2]

Very good. It was a fair criticism and it's good to see it addressed. They care.

I quite liked the original concept from a pure visual standpoint, but the level of faithfulness and heavy-handed lighting was definitely something worthy of criticism.

[67400008b10e1ZylonBane]

What are those four long pod things at the lower part of the station?

If you've played System Shock, you should already know what they are.

[67400008b1305RocketMan]

Oh that is definately a lot better.

If you're readin thread and all. Thanks.

Edit: What are those four long pod things at the lower part of the station?

Referring to the shield generators?

[67400008b1660Hikari]

If you've played System Shock, you should already know what they are.

I have not played the original because I've tried, couldn't get far because battling the controls while dealing with everything else made me grouchy. I've heard logs, seen play through, and all so I know it's good. It's just... the interface and controls left me too aggravated to appreciate any of it while playing, and no I did not want to turn things down to 1 because then you'd be riding me over 'oh you have to play on the baby difficulty huh?' You're like my stepdad, finding negativity and any excuse to bitch at someone you can.

Referring to the shield generators?

Yes, thank you and i appreciate the prompt/to the point answer.

[67400008b17d4RocketMan]

For reference:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6LtRngEQvI8

I hope you're able to find a way around your dislike of the controls (maybe this "enhanced" crap from Night Dive) so you can enjoy the game.

[67400008b1a81Marvin]

The controls should not be an issue anymore after release of the mouselook mod.

[67400008b1b72Hikari]

Concerns have been elsewhere and gaming has suffered as a result. I still need to get the enhanced edition.

[67400008b1ca0Marvin]

Someone at RPGCodex compiled the latest Reddit AMA:
http://www.rpgcodex.net/forums/index.php?threads/system-shock-1-remake-by-night-dive-studios-kickstarter-on-june-29.104619/page-10#post-4601205

[67400008b1e12Learonys]

Yeah, i've read it. Even though I liked how Kick answered to given questions, and how he's handling PR in general, he's also mentioned their team went all in on the kickstarter and they are expecting $900k... 
This makes me nervous, considering how small of a portion of Citadel Station they showed in their trailers and screens so far. I'm sure they have a lot of goodies to show, and maybe even some decent stretch goals (physical copies as stretch goals every single time is getting quite tiresome though), But if this fails their remaster could be set back a lot more than they would like to admit.