SSR Changes and Stretch goals

[681151342b47aSchuler]

As an unrepentant save scummer, I resent your implication that playing the same section over and over again until you complete it perfectly is easy. And you can choose not to turn on the resurrection booths in the base game, so I guess this implies that it will be done automatically in the remake, like Vita-Chambers?

[681151342b5a2DKDArtagnan]

I remember dying quite a bit in SS even with diligent use of CTRL-s

That said, I think they should definitely have a limited save option combined with no respawn - for the masochists.

[681151342b6b4Schuler]

I replayed it recently and died many, many times, especially in level 7 Systems Engineering - would you believe, I couldn't find the medical bay until after I'd blown up the antennae?

[681151342b904Join2]

I'm far from interested in another save discussion, but Just pickup NightDive's Turok re-release. That's the kind of system I want and find would be optimal for non-masochists (of which the iron man mode would cover): can only save in specific locations and you have "lives". Dying resets you back to checkpoints with one life lost, losing all lives sets you back to your last save.

In System Shock, lives would be # of respawn chamber uses, and the checkpoints would be the respawn chamber locations (which already acted kind of like checkpoints anyway). A hardcore mode that simply disables respawn chambers would do nothing but encourage players to save very frequently. It wouldn't add tension, it wouldn't add weight to choices, it wouldn't expand challenges to a matter of endurance because you can save an unlimited amount of times, anywhere at any point.

[681151342bc12ZylonBane]

$2.0 million stretch goal: Quick-time events! Click X to not die. Now Y. Now X again.

$2.1 million stretch goal: Two-weapon limit! You didn't need all those extra guns anyway.

$2.2 million stretch goal: Cover system! Why just take cover when you can "take cover"?

$2.3 million stretch goal: Regenerating heath! Something something nanites something health.

$2.5 million stretch goal: Romantic subplot! Save Bianca Schuler from SHODAN... and yourself from the emptiness in your heart.

[681151342c16cAurora]

In that case we should start to combine: Asian transgender hacker for example. In a kabuki mask. Gay Hispanic (kills with castanets). And of course: Black jewish hacker girl in a magic wheel chair!

So;

Gender Identity: Male, Female, Both, None (4x)
Sexual Orientation: Heterosexual, Homosexual, Bisexual, Pansexual, Asexual (5x) (this will affect the player character's attire, physical build, and manner of speech)
Ethnic Origin: White, Asian, Indian, Mexican, Black (5x)
Age: Teenager, Young Adult, Middle-aged Adult, Elderly (4x)
Disability: Able-bodied, Double Amputation, Quadruple Amputation (3x)
Weight: Underweight, Normal Weight, Overweight (3x)
Religion: Atheist, Christian Protestant, Christian Orthodox, Christian Catholic, Muslim Sunni, Muslim Shia, Hindu, Taoism, Confucianism, Shinto (10x) (this will affect the player character's attire, language use, required prayer interval, and foreskin status)

4 x 5 x 5 x 4 x 3 x 3 x 10 = 36,000

For maximum inclusiveness, we will need to ask Night Dive Studios to create 36,000 unique player characters.





On a serious note, it would be nice to have a choice between a man and a woman hacker.

[681151342c492XKILLJOY98]

$2.0 million stretch goal: Quick-time events! Click X to not die. Now Y. Now X again.

$2.1 million stretch goal: Two-weapon limit! You didn't need all those extra guns anyway.

$2.2 million stretch goal: Cover system! Why just take cover when you can "take cover"?

$2.3 million stretch goal: Regenerating heath! Something something nanites something health.

$2.5 million stretch goal: Romantic subplot! Save Bianca Schuler from SHODAN... and yourself from the emptiness in your heart.

Funny, but I doubt it.

[681151342c73cZylonBane]

Funny, but I doubt it.

You continue to live up to your username.

[681151342c97fXKILLJOY98]

You continue to live up to your username.

What do you mean continue?

If you think I'm being too serious, well maybe you're right, but also keep in mind that we're online, so we can't easily tell/show others our tone in which we speak.

[681151342cb58Kolya]

[681151342ce63RocketMan]

As you can see killjoy, Kolya wishes to convey the feelings that he is a cudley 3-eyed teddy bear.

[681151342d092XKILLJOY98]

As you can see killjoy, Kolya wishes to convey the feelings that he is a cudley 3-eyed teddy bear.

?, Um, I'm not sure what that means but alright.

[681151342d18eZylonBane]

Can we get "I'm not sure what that means" set as his user quote?

[681151342d290Schuler]

XKILLJOY98, Rocketman means that emoticons can be used to convey tones and feelings in place of vocal ones.

[681151342d387ZylonBane]

That's not a fucking emoji. It's an emoticon.

EDIT: Yes folks, he edited his post.

[681151342d58fXKILLJOY98]

Can we get "I'm not sure what that means" set as his user quote?

But I've only said that once on this site.

[681151342d700Nameless Voice]

Did anyone else notice that they reworded the stretch goal about RPG elements?

They now longer explicitly mention levels and perks.

[681151342d812ZylonBane]

I still don't know what the hell they're thinking with that RPG stretch goal. It's like they're actively trying to discourage funding from reaching that level.

[681151342e22fThiefsieFool]

It's like they're actively trying to discourage funding from reaching that level.

I can tell you it's working for some.

[681151342e40bvoodoo47]

the most important bit of info is missing - will the enhanced/rpg mode be optional? because if not, then by reaching the goal, a completely different game will be made, something that some people might not want.

this has actually been suggested multiple times in the kickstarter update topic.

[681151342e52bNameless Voice]

Like TF said, if they make it optional, they'll have to balance the whole game twice - and considering how seldom games have really good balance at the best of times, expecting them to do that twice doesn't seem realistic.

[681151342e63fvoodoo47]

yes, but unless they make it optional, they will piss off a substantial amount of people no matter which way they go. because the rpg element is a big divider - some want it, some hate it, and not much middleground available.

[681151342e78aJoin2]

I've yet to see a good argument as to why the idea is hated other than it isn't Shock 1, which is valid but games are about gameplay first and foremost so I'm against the common notion that all remakes should leave the gameplay as-is and only update the graphics. If you think you can do it better by all means try, just make sure a better game is always your intention (as opposed to dumbing down for money). The original work's identity is lost by updating gameplay just as much as it can be by updating graphics/sound/whatever, so people can piss off making graphics whoring exceptions.

[681151342e88fvoodoo47]

doesn't really matter what kind of idea it is, just that a not overlookable amount of people are not fond of it. and not just here, but on kickstarter as well.

I personally don't mind either way, as long as things work well in the final product.